Funnily enough fast and loud is usually associated with pick playing, I challenge you to get a sharper tone out of your fingers than a pick with all of the same tone settings. Fingernails don’t count because they’re picks at the ends of your fingers B)
Weather Report (Jaco), Return to Forever (Stanley Clarke), Charles Mingus (just listen to his Mood Indigo solo off Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus 😫), Erykah Badu (Hubert Eaves IV), Lightning Bolt (Brian Gibson), Tribal Tech (Gary Willis), Snarky Puppy (Michael League), CASIOPEA (Tetsuo Sakurai), JIMSAKU (Tetsuo Sakurai), and The Meat Puppets (who are primarily guitar-based but I’m a big fan of the bass on the album Up On The Sun, bassist Cris Kirkwood). All of the groups I mentioned are full of amazing musicians in their own right and I wouldn’t say the bass player is the standout frontman in any of them (aside from Mingus and maybe a few others who are bandleaders), but all of their music would’ve been wildly different without the bassists they had. I would have a hard time picking a favorite out of just the names I mentioned here and that’s not including people like Paul Chambers, who may not have been the centerpiece of a band in the same way Mingus was but was an amazing player nonetheless and is still a joy to listen to.
Check out “Blinx: The Timesweeper” OST for Xbox alongside anything from the generations during and before Nintendo’s N64. Nintendo sort of holds the crown jewel in terms of video game music imo, they created the way we conceive 8-bit music today and while VGM has slowly changed over the years they still have some of the catchiest melodies and most iconic songs. I’d recommend the Super Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine soundtracks, the VGM jazz community has been using a few tracks from those titles as standards to jam over.
You can’t fix this without a VST that also contains its own piano roll (I’m assuming you’re talking about assigning 31 keys to an octave so that it’s even instead of having it go from C2 to G4). I use Surge XT and just pitch the synth however many octaves up or down that I want so that I can still use the same range. Aside from that I recommend relating microtonal scales to 12TET if you want to get a feel for what you can do with them, there are microtonal harmonic concepts as well that don’t exist in 12 EDO but it’s a good starting point to compare from.
It sounds like it may be a problem related to your VST then as I’ve never experienced this. The only thing I can think of is that you need to import both a .scl AND a .kbm file, without the keyboard mapping it will do weird shit. With the .kbm file your EDO-specific octave should be translated into the MIDI roll and sound normal, if you’ve already been importing a .kbm file alongside the .scl then it could be a problem with your VST and I would try a new one. I really like Surge XT, it’s an open-source additive synth that feels like a combination between Serum and Logic. As far as I know you should always use both the .scl and .kbm files in conjunction unless you have a reason not to use one.
I am also a Sevish fan, and I’ve been playing around with a bit of 19-EDO on fretless bass to get a feel for how it relates to 12-EDO alongside producing a bit in 19 and 22. There are a few concepts that can help but knowing your western music theory involving triads, modes, and chord extensions, both cerebrally and aurally, will be the key as far as writing like Sevish goes.
Octave pedals can work for this, the C on your A-string is the low note of drop C when it’s pitched an octave down but I know a lot of drop-tune players probably want the feel of an open string to hit on
You could certainly compose some bebop this way if you wanted just by having some different synths lined up for each key change but as others have said it’d be hard to find an instrument that could play it absolutely. I find key changes in xenharmonic music interesting, it’s much finer a change than in 12-tet and quite a bit more difficult to make it obvious you’ve changed key as a result imo
Is it really that hard to believe? I listened to Trout Mask for a month straight while stocking boxes at work when I first discovered it, his music grows on you if you let it ;)
Lots of people have suggested lessons both in-person and on YouTube, which I would also recommend. One more thing I would do is to start learning songs by ear as soon as you can. It may seem like a daunting task at first, but take a song that has a bass (or other instrument) line you like and find it on YouTube. Slow it down to 50 or 75% and start to find every note that they play. It’s ok if you need to just keep replaying one note over and over to find it, just hunt and peck your way through it until you have something that resembles the original bass line. Pay attention to how long the notes are being held, sing the phrase (even if very poorly and out of tune), and play what you learn along with the recording. You will improve very quickly if you work on this method of ear training as soon as you can alongside learning the fundamentals of how to play a note/hold the bass and all that.
Listen to lots of music, hear the things you like, and write using your ear. If you can create music that you like, and it speaks to you, chances are it’ll speak to someone else too. Don’t worry about knowing or not knowing things, learn as much as you can about mixing and music until you’re happy with what you’re creating and then use the tools that you understand. There’s no one way to do a mix, all professionals do it differently and the end goal is that it sounds good. There are things that you want to consider like what you’re mixing on- monitors are king and headphones usually don’t provide the most even mix among all output sources, but if you can get a good mix on headphones and it sounds good in your car and on your phone then keep doing whatever you did to get that mix.
Learn how to play piano. Learn music theory. Listen and practice the bass every day.
How would you learn piano in 3 sentences?
Fast. Loud. And with your fingers not a pick.
Funnily enough fast and loud is usually associated with pick playing, I challenge you to get a sharper tone out of your fingers than a pick with all of the same tone settings. Fingernails don’t count because they’re picks at the ends of your fingers B)
Weather Report (Jaco), Return to Forever (Stanley Clarke), Charles Mingus (just listen to his Mood Indigo solo off Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus 😫), Erykah Badu (Hubert Eaves IV), Lightning Bolt (Brian Gibson), Tribal Tech (Gary Willis), Snarky Puppy (Michael League), CASIOPEA (Tetsuo Sakurai), JIMSAKU (Tetsuo Sakurai), and The Meat Puppets (who are primarily guitar-based but I’m a big fan of the bass on the album Up On The Sun, bassist Cris Kirkwood). All of the groups I mentioned are full of amazing musicians in their own right and I wouldn’t say the bass player is the standout frontman in any of them (aside from Mingus and maybe a few others who are bandleaders), but all of their music would’ve been wildly different without the bassists they had. I would have a hard time picking a favorite out of just the names I mentioned here and that’s not including people like Paul Chambers, who may not have been the centerpiece of a band in the same way Mingus was but was an amazing player nonetheless and is still a joy to listen to.
https://open.spotify.com/track/7nWgGYpntmDcEIEoruY6zM?si=70qJ-QiCRdy2FI5tYuBKqA
Who? I don't use spotify.
Wasn’t sure if you would be able to view the links or not without being logged in, I’ll grab you some YouTube links
If I had my little way
I’d eat peaches every day
Check out “Blinx: The Timesweeper” OST for Xbox alongside anything from the generations during and before Nintendo’s N64. Nintendo sort of holds the crown jewel in terms of video game music imo, they created the way we conceive 8-bit music today and while VGM has slowly changed over the years they still have some of the catchiest melodies and most iconic songs. I’d recommend the Super Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine soundtracks, the VGM jazz community has been using a few tracks from those titles as standards to jam over.
Depends what you’re playing. Easy key to shred, hardest key to pound the root on endlessly ;)
You can’t fix this without a VST that also contains its own piano roll (I’m assuming you’re talking about assigning 31 keys to an octave so that it’s even instead of having it go from C2 to G4). I use Surge XT and just pitch the synth however many octaves up or down that I want so that I can still use the same range. Aside from that I recommend relating microtonal scales to 12TET if you want to get a feel for what you can do with them, there are microtonal harmonic concepts as well that don’t exist in 12 EDO but it’s a good starting point to compare from.
It sounds like it may be a problem related to your VST then as I’ve never experienced this. The only thing I can think of is that you need to import both a .scl AND a .kbm file, without the keyboard mapping it will do weird shit. With the .kbm file your EDO-specific octave should be translated into the MIDI roll and sound normal, if you’ve already been importing a .kbm file alongside the .scl then it could be a problem with your VST and I would try a new one. I really like Surge XT, it’s an open-source additive synth that feels like a combination between Serum and Logic. As far as I know you should always use both the .scl and .kbm files in conjunction unless you have a reason not to use one.
I play fretless for both a ska-funk and a blues band and I wouldn’t want it any other way B)
Make one of them change their strings to an A-C set and only play above the fifth fret B)
I am also a Sevish fan, and I’ve been playing around with a bit of 19-EDO on fretless bass to get a feel for how it relates to 12-EDO alongside producing a bit in 19 and 22. There are a few concepts that can help but knowing your western music theory involving triads, modes, and chord extensions, both cerebrally and aurally, will be the key as far as writing like Sevish goes.
How do you see it? Why ask internet strangers how you should feel about it?
Why get on a subreddit where internet strangers give advice only to ask why it exists?
I'm a reasonably new bassist with just my first bass, and i already want another one just for the music I like that doesn't live in standard tuning.
Octave pedals can work for this, the C on your A-string is the low note of drop C when it’s pitched an octave down but I know a lot of drop-tune players probably want the feel of an open string to hit on
You could certainly compose some bebop this way if you wanted just by having some different synths lined up for each key change but as others have said it’d be hard to find an instrument that could play it absolutely. I find key changes in xenharmonic music interesting, it’s much finer a change than in 12-tet and quite a bit more difficult to make it obvious you’ve changed key as a result imo
I think you’re lying.
Is it really that hard to believe? I listened to Trout Mask for a month straight while stocking boxes at work when I first discovered it, his music grows on you if you let it ;)
https://open.spotify.com/track/1A22qNJ3mEAHbyRdNCbYVo?si=cBMvkHhESfKM_HtABH4oQQ
Rainbow Kitten Surprise?
Black Moth Super Rainbow
Lots of people have suggested lessons both in-person and on YouTube, which I would also recommend. One more thing I would do is to start learning songs by ear as soon as you can. It may seem like a daunting task at first, but take a song that has a bass (or other instrument) line you like and find it on YouTube. Slow it down to 50 or 75% and start to find every note that they play. It’s ok if you need to just keep replaying one note over and over to find it, just hunt and peck your way through it until you have something that resembles the original bass line. Pay attention to how long the notes are being held, sing the phrase (even if very poorly and out of tune), and play what you learn along with the recording. You will improve very quickly if you work on this method of ear training as soon as you can alongside learning the fundamentals of how to play a note/hold the bass and all that.
Listen to lots of music, hear the things you like, and write using your ear. If you can create music that you like, and it speaks to you, chances are it’ll speak to someone else too. Don’t worry about knowing or not knowing things, learn as much as you can about mixing and music until you’re happy with what you’re creating and then use the tools that you understand. There’s no one way to do a mix, all professionals do it differently and the end goal is that it sounds good. There are things that you want to consider like what you’re mixing on- monitors are king and headphones usually don’t provide the most even mix among all output sources, but if you can get a good mix on headphones and it sounds good in your car and on your phone then keep doing whatever you did to get that mix.
https://youtu.be/WxrpZ4L404M
I play lux mid now, e+r the wave and never interact, if a teamfight occurs one random E or a lucky bind seals the win for your team <3
Janna support: ward everything, buy Mejai’s, don’t die, win. Easiest LP I’ve ever gained in my life B)
Morphable - Sevish
I would like to dream of an epic collaboration between them.
You should check out Eyedea
he's dead :(
A lyrical Einstein nonetheless B)
Wish I could afford a Lumatone lol
https://youtu.be/WxrpZ4L404M