the problem is that even for people who make the choice to wear it, many of them make that choice because of fear of retaliation. it’s not really a choice if you’re coerced into doing it
That's bullshit. Religion is used to control people, especially women. Someone who is raised to believe something and told that if they don't, they will suffer for eternity is not a person who can make an informed choice.
True, correct me if I am wrong. But during the reign of Reza Shahs dad he disallowed the Hijab because he wanted to modernize Iran. Years later when the Ayatollahs took over, as a form of retaliation they mandates and enforced the Hijab.
Iranian people are not Islamic. They are oppressed by a theocratic Islamic regime. Iranian men hate Islam as much as their women do. Iran has a rich history and culture spanning thousands of years before Islam was a thing. Please do not spread the same propaganda that has been used to tarnish Iranian people and culture by the west for decades.
Protecting people's right to participate in their culture themselves? Of course! Allowing people to enforce that culture on the people around them just because they live in the same country/area? Nope! Not OK.
The quickest way to figure out if they’re hypocrites. Ask the ones who say it’s a choice if they’d send their mom/sister to Iran without it. We all know the answer.
It just blows me away that we live in a world where some people will assault you, arrest you and even kill you for not wearing a piece of cloth over your head.
My family is so so. My parents never did and never will force me to cover up but my moms covered up for 6 years now before that she had short blonde hair and wore T-shirt’s and stuff now she’s completely covered up her older brother always forced her whenever she would visit him so before she covered up she would always wear the headscarf whenever she visited her family and take it off once we were back in Germany but now she’s completely covered up she says she loves it and and she feels at peace now but tbh I think it’s because we moved here and people here talk a lot lol. I’ll never cover up and my parents aren’t the kind to force anyone luckily
As a Turk, I can confirm that I’ve never seen or talk to someone who wears hijab by choice. It’s either a brainwashing process or forced by husband/family. edit: there are too many people who don’t understand what I was trying to say. Personally speaking, I just haven’t talked to or seen someone who wears it by choice. I was told that it’s mostly forced by family.
As I Canadian who grew up around many muslims I can tell you it is a choice, many chose to wear it as it is part of their values, but I knew many people who chose not too. Extremists exist in all aspects of life, especially when religion of any kind is involved
As a Turk, I have never seen women without hijab not being able to enter government buildings or universities. Seen lots of hijabi women suffering this fate tho. Most of the hijabis are proud of their religious clothing and will defend it. Turkey’s own battle for independence started after some occupying soldier dared to touch a woman’s hijab and got shot by Sutcu Imam. But go on vomit your secularist bullshit
Thanks you. Yes there’s a huge problem in some nations where it isn’t a choice but that doesn’t change what the actual teaching is. Every religion has assholes who force or coerce even if the teaching doesn’t agree. I would know... I’m Catholic.
Hehe racism! one of the world’s most popular religions that’s found in dozens of countries is totally homogenous. Someone’s experience in Iran clearly dictates all other Muslims’ experiences in, say, Morocco, Nepal, India, and Egypt.
I am a Muslim from a different part of the world and forcing hijab is well known way of losing the trust of the daughter and it will not integrate her into the religion . Religion is a personal choice but most of society has faith and sometimes it's holding people through some rough time . But forcing religion or beliefs will backfire because faith is required.
Us western men have a responsibility here to do our bit for the Iranian women's protests. If we start posting and memeing how attractive and desirable women in hijabs and burkhas are to our defiled western minds, and that nothing could be more desirable than a fully covered compliant partner, maybe, just maybe
Exactly and it's not just Iran millions of girls are suffering worldwide because of Islam think of the witch trials of Christianity multiply it and you get our reality
They're going to to storm all 600 pounds pea cock hair and 16 genders to fight tooth and nail to protect the very people that would execute them for existing
Lmao indian muslims are actually fighting to wear hijab after a private school banned it. And guess what, American politicians asked indian government to ask school to stop inforcing these laws.
Muslim men will fight tooth and nail for the rights of hijab and Muslim women in the west will also join them since they can take it off whenever they wish
I always find it to be such lunacy that brave protestors in Iran are fighting and bleeding for the freedom to push their country into the future and the backward ass immigrants in first world countries insist on retaining this idiotic medieval costume in the name of fucking "choice"
One of the biggest holes in the Koran is it says to listen to the teachings of Jesus. But Jesus's teaching directly contradict a lot in the Koran. It's funny how people overlook it so much.
None religion is bad, the bad thing its the dogmatic assholes that make religion a battlefield instead of a message of love and comprehension (PS: I am agnostic)
Islam does not promote love, the prophet married 12 women and fucked a child and started wars to spread his word do you think that guy cared about love and peace?
The people defending Islam but denouncing Christianity seem to be missing the fact that they are defending the same shit they criticize at home. These people represent the same twisted shit values in their country it's just in different packaging.
Religion was made by humans to opress and control the barbaric humans of the past with lies such as heaven and hell. Now that we have science and common sense, hopefully we will rid of this rot that still is abused for opression and control.
when people are forced to wear hijabs, it's a problem. when people are forced not to wear hijabs, its also a problem. the problem is controlling people, usually women. having laws based on how people can express their religion or lack thereof under threat of jail time, torture, or death is wrong. the world would be so, SO much better if everyone could learn to mind their own business and let others do what they want as long as it isn't hurting anyone, and the simple act of wearing a hijab doesn't. its the consequences that others put upon it that hurts them.
dude it can be a choice, some people genuinely enjoy wearing it and some people don’t want to but are forced. not every situation is the same and generalizing does nothing.
Funny how people think that one case automatically means that all Muslim women are forced to wear Hijab. Typical westerners who think they know better why women wear Hijab than the actualy women who wear it.
Middle Eastern conservatives want to force women to wear the hijab, and western conservatives want to ban women from wearing it. It's almost like it should be her personal choice.
Hijab should be a choice. Problem lies when governments and societies try to outlaw that choice, whether that be the choice to wear it or remove it. This also includes the legal protection when choosing to do either. So the discussion will be different in different countries with different laws on the subject.
As a muslim living in a muslim community it is a choice, I’ve seen many wives stop wearing the hijab and there have been no repercussions other than old women talking shit.
I currently live in the US and I do believe all suffering is valid but I just laugh when woke people claim that the US is a sexist country like have you seen the rest of the world?
Muslims are such weak pieces of shit that if they see any exposed skin, just like their prophet was a pedophile, they go into rape mode; but because Islam is fucking retarded they say it's the woman's fault. Pathetic assholes
Lol so what happened buddy one bad experience with Muslims and you hear some rumors in the internet and now assume all 2 billion Muslims are like that alright bud
Some wear it because they chose to, like some of my relatives. Others because they're forced to. So keep your "🤡" for yourself, and think twice before posting.
I get where ur coming from and I understand that some Muslim countries are seen doing inhuman shit like this, but Allah never told us to force any woman into wearing the hijab and im pretty sure forcing any person to do something is haram and unethical. Wearing the hijab is one of the most important things a woman should do but if she doesn’t its up to Allah to punish her for that we are not fit to do such thing and who knows maybe Allah wont even punish her.
There are bigots in every religion that take advantage and distort the teachings to benefit themselves. That don't understand their own theology. You seem to understand better than that though, so thank you for being a decent human
There's literally a ban in the Hijab in France and Muslim women face higher rates of anti Muslim hate crimes because of this misogyny, because this mentality is no different to women who want to abolish make up or wanting to look thin because it is used by men to oppress women.
So what, doesnt change the fact that women, especially muslim children are FORCED to wear the hijab, and threatened with hellfire. I live in a muslim country and it IS a normal occurence
so cuz there is a woman forced to wear it, does it really mean all women are forced to it? It’s like saying all Men are rapists after some men committing it, yes there is SOME women forced to it
Yeah this post is so ignorant it’s embarrassing. I wouldn’t be surprised if OP was either 15 or 48, but nowhere in between. They think they’re advocating for people but all they’re doing is showing how narrow-minded they are.
the question is if they were manipulated into believing that they want to wear hijab. If you see something your entire life, you won't even think of changing it (goes in both directions = there is a possibility that non-Muslims just think that all women are forced to wear it, but you can't real prove either).
100 years ago all European women wore headscarves as it is considered to be Christian. Even now Jewish women wear headscarves. All this is forced by religion. Demonising what is good
Westerner women wore headscarfs to mainly to hide their hair on a day it wasn’t set in place, or keep their hair set on a day when it was windy outside (then they’d take it off inside) or finally just as a fashion accessory.
TLDR: this meme is kinda dumb but I get the point it's trying to make. People shouldn't be forced into things they don't agree with or want to do when it doesn't actually hurt others.
If it really is their choice and how they feel comfortable, cool! Be free
the problem is that even for people who make the choice to wear it, many of them make that choice because of fear of retaliation. it’s not really a choice if you’re coerced into doing it
That's bullshit. Religion is used to control people, especially women. Someone who is raised to believe something and told that if they don't, they will suffer for eternity is not a person who can make an informed choice.
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You forgot raped, they are raped as well
True, correct me if I am wrong. But during the reign of Reza Shahs dad he disallowed the Hijab because he wanted to modernize Iran. Years later when the Ayatollahs took over, as a form of retaliation they mandates and enforced the Hijab.
Yeah it's horrible people are forcing women to wear it. It's their choice if they want to or not
Yeah, unfortunately it is not talked enough
Islam is an oppressive religion. By far the most oppressive.
Dude it's also a huge problem how many children the catholic church rapes every single year globally.
+if you are Iranian your husband will cut your head and walk with it in city and say you were bitch
I love the creative ways they come up with to oppress us
Iranian people are not Islamic. They are oppressed by a theocratic Islamic regime. Iranian men hate Islam as much as their women do. Iran has a rich history and culture spanning thousands of years before Islam was a thing. Please do not spread the same propaganda that has been used to tarnish Iranian people and culture by the west for decades.
Protecting people's right to participate in their culture themselves? Of course! Allowing people to enforce that culture on the people around them just because they live in the same country/area? Nope! Not OK.
The quickest way to figure out if they’re hypocrites. Ask the ones who say it’s a choice if they’d send their mom/sister to Iran without it. We all know the answer.
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I upvote removed posts. Censorship is awful.
You gotta add the spaces between the square brackets. Like this:
Reddit is insane making fun of Christianity is okay, but they draw the line at Islam which is the worse version of the same book
someone please share this to
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Man is starting WW3
It just blows me away that we live in a world where some people will assault you, arrest you and even kill you for not wearing a piece of cloth over your head.
Oh boy… time to sort by controversial
My family is so so. My parents never did and never will force me to cover up but my moms covered up for 6 years now before that she had short blonde hair and wore T-shirt’s and stuff now she’s completely covered up her older brother always forced her whenever she would visit him so before she covered up she would always wear the headscarf whenever she visited her family and take it off once we were back in Germany but now she’s completely covered up she says she loves it and and she feels at peace now but tbh I think it’s because we moved here and people here talk a lot lol. I’ll never cover up and my parents aren’t the kind to force anyone luckily
Men that don’t have the wit or ability to deal with women as equals will create a religion/government to enforce their Will upon them.
Bro what happened to memes
Definitely a choice, Just not hers.
Its all about fear and suppression
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It’s funny how all of you are experts now
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It's funny how this post is so far from being a funnymeme
of course they’re experts when they can exert their hate lol
As a Turk, I can confirm that I’ve never seen or talk to someone who wears hijab by choice. It’s either a brainwashing process or forced by husband/family. edit: there are too many people who don’t understand what I was trying to say. Personally speaking, I just haven’t talked to or seen someone who wears it by choice. I was told that it’s mostly forced by family.
The you clearly haven’t met a lot of people or Muslims! I do wear it out of choice and love for it!
As I Canadian who grew up around many muslims I can tell you it is a choice, many chose to wear it as it is part of their values, but I knew many people who chose not too. Extremists exist in all aspects of life, especially when religion of any kind is involved
As a Turk, I have never seen women without hijab not being able to enter government buildings or universities. Seen lots of hijabi women suffering this fate tho. Most of the hijabis are proud of their religious clothing and will defend it. Turkey’s own battle for independence started after some occupying soldier dared to touch a woman’s hijab and got shot by Sutcu Imam. But go on vomit your secularist bullshit
as an algerian i have relatives that are muslim and dont wear hijab and they are not getting harassed by anyone
France or India, people are actually protesting to wear hijab
Harassment of women brought to you by old Conservative men using religion as their tool
It dosent look like a choice too me
Wheres the funny
Thanks you. Yes there’s a huge problem in some nations where it isn’t a choice but that doesn’t change what the actual teaching is. Every religion has assholes who force or coerce even if the teaching doesn’t agree. I would know... I’m Catholic.
"religion bad, minority = majority, please gib upvote"
Hehe racism! one of the world’s most popular religions that’s found in dozens of countries is totally homogenous. Someone’s experience in Iran clearly dictates all other Muslims’ experiences in, say, Morocco, Nepal, India, and Egypt.
Islam bad, upvotes please, that's the joke
I am a Muslim from a different part of the world and forcing hijab is well known way of losing the trust of the daughter and it will not integrate her into the religion . Religion is a personal choice but most of society has faith and sometimes it's holding people through some rough time . But forcing religion or beliefs will backfire because faith is required.
Yeah plus what’s the point in wearing hijab if ur intention isn’t to please Allah but cuz ur scared of ur family
Us western men have a responsibility here to do our bit for the Iranian women's protests. If we start posting and memeing how attractive and desirable women in hijabs and burkhas are to our defiled western minds, and that nothing could be more desirable than a fully covered compliant partner, maybe, just maybe
NGL, I was about to consider you stupid for the first half - glad I read on. I like the way you think! :) What's the opposite of
Exactly and it's not just Iran millions of girls are suffering worldwide because of Islam think of the witch trials of Christianity multiply it and you get our reality
Average Iranian
Facts
Its still a choice.
Epicly funny cos it's true!!!!!!!
Iran in 1970s was the best Iran.
Bruh 😂😂😂
Reddit mods fuming right now. THEY GONNA TAKE IT DOWN
They're going to to storm all 600 pounds pea cock hair and 16 genders to fight tooth and nail to protect the very people that would execute them for existing
Lmao indian muslims are actually fighting to wear hijab after a private school banned it. And guess what, American politicians asked indian government to ask school to stop inforcing these laws.
firsty, this is out of context
Muslim men will fight tooth and nail for the rights of hijab and Muslim women in the west will also join them since they can take it off whenever they wish
Such a great religion you're part of my lady. Can I introduce you to our Lord and Savior Joseph Smith
Hello! I would like to share with you the most amazing book.
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I always find it to be such lunacy that brave protestors in Iran are fighting and bleeding for the freedom to push their country into the future and the backward ass immigrants in first world countries insist on retaining this idiotic medieval costume in the name of fucking "choice"
Exactly nothing angers more than Muslim women in the west claiming that it's a choice like bitch it's not for us
Hijab is the proof that Muslim men look at women with lewd eyes
Ah Islam. So peaceful.
i allways think islam is a 600 years in the past(or 400 to 200)
I heard muslim women are a blast.
Fuck religions
If a woman in Iran, Saudi Arabia or Qatar wears it, it is probably because she is forced to
just another example of how damaging religion is.
True, hijab is a choice, because they are told that it is their choice
Very very few women would ever wear one if it was an actual choice.
"Dad, why do we go to church every Sunday?"
Accurate representation of the year 1800
I told my parents I don’t want to go to church anymore because it’s a boring and they just said okay.
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Damn I thought this subreddit was for funny memes not political shit
Politics is a clown show these days, so... close enough?
Muhammad raped children
That fact doesn't matter to Muslims especially Muslim men, we are just holes that creates children consent is not their priority
Mind letting me know how old Mary was when Joseph married her and God made her pregnant?
Allah willed it. /s?
One of the biggest holes in the Koran is it says to listen to the teachings of Jesus. But Jesus's teaching directly contradict a lot in the Koran. It's funny how people overlook it so much.
None religion is bad, the bad thing its the dogmatic assholes that make religion a battlefield instead of a message of love and comprehension (PS: I am agnostic)
Islam does not promote love, the prophet married 12 women and fucked a child and started wars to spread his word do you think that guy cared about love and peace?
The people defending Islam but denouncing Christianity seem to be missing the fact that they are defending the same shit they criticize at home. These people represent the same twisted shit values in their country it's just in different packaging.
Exactly I can't stand woke feminists who defend Islam they are so dumb
Islam is even worse than christianity 💀
Let me just start the trend. FUCK ISLAM. Fuck religion. Its not needed.
If only it was just a choice...
Truly a symbol of female empowerment
No need for it they already lock us at home
Religion was made by humans to opress and control the barbaric humans of the past with lies such as heaven and hell. Now that we have science and common sense, hopefully we will rid of this rot that still is abused for opression and control.
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Perhaps the origins of these.. maybe all.. religions, were not so seemingly 'bad' at first?
Feel like there’s a different sub for this instead of “funny memes”
What's funny about this?
This is what the protest in Iran IA in a nutshell. People lying to themselves that they have freedom.
LOL, very true
Savage
Sad reality
If those terrible things happened to her, she would still be considered one of the lucky ones.
It's called Stockholm syndrome.
It's not a choice until everybody has the choice
It’s not a choice if you have to wear it
I’m trying my best not to laugh because this meme is very much reality.
“It’s my choice to reinforce patriarchal power dynamics”
"Mum, why do you wear clothes?"
when people are forced to wear hijabs, it's a problem. when people are forced not to wear hijabs, its also a problem. the problem is controlling people, usually women. having laws based on how people can express their religion or lack thereof under threat of jail time, torture, or death is wrong. the world would be so, SO much better if everyone could learn to mind their own business and let others do what they want as long as it isn't hurting anyone, and the simple act of wearing a hijab doesn't. its the consequences that others put upon it that hurts them.
It's a shame that people don't understand what they criticise and instead rely on stereotypes and blatant xenophobia to defend ignorant views
dude it can be a choice, some people genuinely enjoy wearing it and some people don’t want to but are forced. not every situation is the same and generalizing does nothing.
tfw you equate wearing the hijab consensually to being forced to wear it by an oppressive military dictatorship.
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"It's funny 'cause it's true"
Hijab is a choice. Her husband's choice.
Lol
Yes implying that no woman wears the hijab by choice is 100% gonna help solve the crisis in Iran.
hey OP, why is your screen name “storm front”?
Islam is wayyy too far spread of a religion for you all to act like one countries rules dictates all of its followers feelings.
Funny how people think that one case automatically means that all Muslim women are forced to wear Hijab. Typical westerners who think they know better why women wear Hijab than the actualy women who wear it.
Classic reddit comments. This shit entertains me for 10 minutes.
Middle Eastern conservatives want to force women to wear the hijab, and western conservatives want to ban women from wearing it. It's almost like it should be her personal choice.
Hijab should be a choice. Problem lies when governments and societies try to outlaw that choice, whether that be the choice to wear it or remove it. This also includes the legal protection when choosing to do either. So the discussion will be different in different countries with different laws on the subject.
OP is just driven by pure hate and will take any chance to paint this religion in a bad image
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As a muslim living in a muslim community it is a choice, I’ve seen many wives stop wearing the hijab and there have been no repercussions other than old women talking shit.
Dont forget the stones, there is always stones…
So sad. Just another way to keep women oppressed.
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"buT IT iz PeACfUl ReLIjun, ONLY tEH Xtreme oNeZ R Like tHIS!" -Admiral Akbar!
Fuck Shariah Law. and Fuck them that support it.
This is not a funny meme
Sad to see this so highly upvoted
Funny doesn’t equal political
It's the same reason I pay taxes and apply for permits. It's my choice, and this is a free country!
Im excited to read these comments
Are we all sick of religion yet?
Islam sucks dick
I wouldn’t consider this a funny meme my dude
Yes. Its their choice between wearing it or getting stoned
sums up the Muslim men in the comments and my dms arguments
This. But women in America claim to have it bad.
I currently live in the US and I do believe all suffering is valid but I just laugh when woke people claim that the US is a sexist country like have you seen the rest of the world?
Let’s be real! It’s a symbol of OPPRESSION for women.
Muslims are such weak pieces of shit that if they see any exposed skin, just like their prophet was a pedophile, they go into rape mode; but because Islam is fucking retarded they say it's the woman's fault. Pathetic assholes
Lol so what happened buddy one bad experience with Muslims and you hear some rumors in the internet and now assume all 2 billion Muslims are like that alright bud
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I feel so bad for the people that are trapped under the iron fist of Islamic states.
Ahahahaa
Some wear it because they chose to, like some of my relatives. Others because they're forced to. So keep your "🤡" for yourself, and think twice before posting.
Think of it as safety equipment. So long as she's wearing one, nothing will happen to her.
unless she gets raped then the way she wore the hijab becomes the problem
I get where ur coming from and I understand that some Muslim countries are seen doing inhuman shit like this, but Allah never told us to force any woman into wearing the hijab and im pretty sure forcing any person to do something is haram and unethical. Wearing the hijab is one of the most important things a woman should do but if she doesn’t its up to Allah to punish her for that we are not fit to do such thing and who knows maybe Allah wont even punish her.
There are bigots in every religion that take advantage and distort the teachings to benefit themselves. That don't understand their own theology. You seem to understand better than that though, so thank you for being a decent human
Allah can suck my D.
I see nothing it truth lol… who’s really gunna argue this.
It's not a choice if your choice to not wear it means a visit from police
she's lucky she gets the police and not her family
Islam as western leftists think of it versus the reality.
….The sad thing is this really isn’t a joke.
There's literally a ban in the Hijab in France and Muslim women face higher rates of anti Muslim hate crimes because of this misogyny, because this mentality is no different to women who want to abolish make up or wanting to look thin because it is used by men to oppress women.
So what, doesnt change the fact that women, especially muslim children are FORCED to wear the hijab, and threatened with hellfire. I live in a muslim country and it IS a normal occurence
Also Islamophobic is a made up thing since every criticism is islamophobia in the eyes of muslims
so cuz there is a woman forced to wear it, does it really mean all women are forced to it? It’s like saying all Men are rapists after some men committing it, yes there is SOME women forced to it
Yeah this post is so ignorant it’s embarrassing. I wouldn’t be surprised if OP was either 15 or 48, but nowhere in between. They think they’re advocating for people but all they’re doing is showing how narrow-minded they are.
Agreed
This is an even better response
the question is if they were manipulated into believing that they want to wear hijab. If you see something your entire life, you won't even think of changing it (goes in both directions = there is a possibility that non-Muslims just think that all women are forced to wear it, but you can't real prove either).
True
100 years ago all European women wore headscarves as it is considered to be Christian. Even now Jewish women wear headscarves. All this is forced by religion. Demonising what is good
Source: your butt
How many Christian and Jewish women were stoned to death for taking off these headscarves?
if by "women" you mean "nuns", then yes
This is so completely false lol
Westerner women wore headscarfs to mainly to hide their hair on a day it wasn’t set in place, or keep their hair set on a day when it was windy outside (then they’d take it off inside) or finally just as a fashion accessory.
Wait..in 1922 ?
Fuck Islam
Ban hijabs
That’s a moronic idea
This isn't funny at all, reddit memes are never funny tbh
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the truth right there
This meme should never go away
Nope it's obligation in Islam but doesn't write push women and kick them in Quran. If she doesn't her choice
Maybe stop looking at whats written down and look at the actions of real people
I lived in Egypt for a few years. Lots of women don't wear it. Redditers are mainly teenagers who've never been out of their own town.
i completely agree ✋️
TLDR: this meme is kinda dumb but I get the point it's trying to make. People shouldn't be forced into things they don't agree with or want to do when it doesn't actually hurt others.
It is a choice though