Definitely not gonna happen. If they want this game to last ten years they're gonna have to end up making some remakes. Unless they just use forge maps that are remakes which is pretty much the same thing. kinda
So they said this will be the definitive halo for the next 10 years but don’t want to include any historical maps? And this is the same timeline where we got super smash bros ultimate with literally every character and then some? I don’t want to compare apples to oranges but damn 343 really don’t want to give gamers what they want
I'd rather have remakes than brand-new maps. 343 has shown us in Halo 5: Guardians and Halo: Infinite that they are terrible at designing maps. Halo 5: Guardians has the most forgettable Arena maps in the franchise. All Halo: Infinite really has is Behemoth.
In their view that btb map with the Valhalla man cannon bases is a remake where it nods to the original map but offers a unique experience. I disagree with the idea and think that 1-1 ports or ports with slight updates to accommodate new movement would be amazing.
For context, their reasoning was that in their playtests direct ports of maps from previous games did not play well in Infinite. (their words, not mine)
They could at least add some from familiar locations on Reach in that case. I’d love to see a rooftop map like we saw with the big open style helicopter (Hornet?) map in Reach. Something like that could take advantage of the grapple hook and other equipment.
I'm honestly for that. They might've looked at bo4 and saw how much recycled shit was in that game and how the community was against it. It would also explain the dev time (among other issues internally)
They have several games filled with good maps and their pride or moralsnor whatever kicked im there to NOT include any of those maps? They thought it was a better option to release with NOTHING?? Its called Halo INFINITEL
Because they'd rather come up with some new ideas for maps instead of circlejerk the old ones over and over, especially considering the different weapon balance and equipment would make the old maps not play very well.
Its ok theres only 2 new maps (1 arena 1 btb) announced so far for season 2, Im hoping for more but the lack of coop and forge has seemingly cut into map design and other areas and with that now being delayed getting more maps seems like a pipe dream
As someone else pointed out, they don’t want to do remakes. But why? Why the fuck wouldnt you give us things we’ve liked before? Why do they insist on all these meaningless changes?
I think we some right tweaks a lot of the Reach maps could fit the sandbox. While some Reach maps were annoying with jet pack spam or what not, I think many of them would shine with the better balanced equipment in Infinite. Plus Reach's maps are aesthetically gorgeous and I would love to see something like Spire, Highlands, Boneyard, Tempest or Anchor 9 come back.
The game doesn’t even need maps from Halo: Reach but the game literally lacks any maps from the planet Reach. They even had concept art of some Reach based Infinite content and seemingly didn’t use it for launch.
I mean it barely has anything to do with Reach aside from the selection of armors in the battle pass. The events haven't had anything to do with Reach, theres no "Reach" game modes, armor effects, maps, AI's, weapons, etc.
Sword Base is maybe my favorite map of all time. Or at least top 3. One of those maps where the spawn locations are well laid out, it's easy to get around but also easy to post up and hold your own against other teams, etc. My squad beat many a superior team who had to get through our coordinated defenses.
No, cause 80% of Reach's original (not counting remakes) maps are terrible, the other 10% are just ok maps, and the other 10% wouldn't play well without Reach's sandbox.
Everyone keeps saying add old maps to the new game, and while I understand that and miss some maps as well, don't. Frankly with the new weapons and new abilities it wouldn't work
Season 1, which is based on reach, doesn’t even have all of the reach armor in the game. You have to pay more in the store for certain sets and some only exist for AI to use.
I'll just quickly talk about the misconception about this season being about Reach. This season is about Noble Team, which makes it weird about the ODST armour, but that's what the seasons for. Plus 343i stated they don't want to add map remakes
I’d take any maps at this point, but remakes are usually an easy slam dunk. I find it weird that they didn’t bolster the map roster with some tried and true classics
Because 343 is set on thinking that they can be original and successful. Many easy things can be done to to appease fans in this game, but 343 is unable/unwilling, depending what story they give that week.
If you’d like to play something really neat in the vein of old maps redone and have mcc pc.. one extremely talented young modder ported the entirety of halo 1 multiplayer into the halo 3 engine. Clearly made with a lot of love and effort.
I rarely see a game seriously link a season theme to in-game gameplay. It may reference lore, or previous games, but doesn't do much to pull those experiences into the new game other than with cosmetics.
Mostly because it’s hasn’t even been a year and no forge mode is finished for the public. So yeah I didn’t even expect new map packs to come this soon, but goddamn we need it
Because Reach multiplayer sucked and was responsible for the downfall of competitive. Reach was a good campaign, multiplayer armors were good, and the forge was cool but actual online multiplayer was awful.
From past interviews, 343 mentioned they don't want to add any remake maps to infinite.
So Blood Gulch is a no go for them then?
That's pretty stupid tbh. I'd love some classic maps in Infinite
Lmao they don't want to add anything that should be in Halo, into Halo infinite
Definitely not gonna happen. If they want this game to last ten years they're gonna have to end up making some remakes. Unless they just use forge maps that are remakes which is pretty much the same thing. kinda
Forge: Fine... I'll do it myself.
That's ridiculous, especially if they want this game to be a live service.
I was on board for that until I saw how bare bones and dry Infinite was.
Makes sense considering how insane Infinite’s Forge is supposed to be.
So they said this will be the definitive halo for the next 10 years but don’t want to include any historical maps? And this is the same timeline where we got super smash bros ultimate with literally every character and then some? I don’t want to compare apples to oranges but damn 343 really don’t want to give gamers what they want
So the game that is all about celebrating Halo as a franchise and its history….
I'd rather have remakes than brand-new maps. 343 has shown us in Halo 5: Guardians and Halo: Infinite that they are terrible at designing maps. Halo 5: Guardians has the most forgettable Arena maps in the franchise. All Halo: Infinite really has is Behemoth.
In their view that btb map with the Valhalla man cannon bases is a remake where it nods to the original map but offers a unique experience. I disagree with the idea and think that 1-1 ports or ports with slight updates to accommodate new movement would be amazing.
If the forge tools are as powerful as were being led to believe a whole lot of classic maps will be made in forge. It makes sense to focus on original
Really? Aquarius is a remake of Fathom.
For context, their reasoning was that in their playtests direct ports of maps from previous games did not play well in Infinite. (their words, not mine)
Why not? Some maps are just good, sure it may seem lazy to people but they're still being made from scratch
Pretty stupid of them, so easy to make up for lack of content by reusing maps like they resued the armour.
They could at least add some from familiar locations on Reach in that case. I’d love to see a rooftop map like we saw with the big open style helicopter (Hornet?) map in Reach. Something like that could take advantage of the grapple hook and other equipment.
They have so much older talent that they just have to copy. Why wouldn’t they add older maps? Makes no sense
Forge Makers: Fine… I’ll do it myself.
Forge will allow this to happen if 343 don't do it themselves
Snipes on blood gulch
I'm honestly for that. They might've looked at bo4 and saw how much recycled shit was in that game and how the community was against it. It would also explain the dev time (among other issues internally)
I think that's just a cover up for a lack of content.
I think that's fine but we need something else in their place
Bruh seems like they don’t want to make any maps at all.
That’s because they want the fans to make them with forge and then they will put them in matchmaking. Free labor.
There's a risk people might like that, can't be doing something so crazy.
They have several games filled with good maps and their pride or moralsnor whatever kicked im there to NOT include any of those maps? They thought it was a better option to release with NOTHING?? Its called Halo INFINITEL
But why, how about blood gulch with traditional vehicle spawns, but sized up to account for the faster speeds? Please? PLEASE?
You mean, no lockout?
What?!? We need the pit and Valhalla
You're joking.
343 are fucking idiots. Listen to what your players want, and give it to them.
No CE maps either. Game launched on the 20th anniversary with no remake maps.
Or fire fight.
I'm pretty sure firefight is planned down the line.
It's a shame. Countdown would've been a great map to include in Infinite; it's practically made for the Grappleshot.
We need Guardian and Last Resort for sure.
You dare not mention High Ground?
Shout out to Block Pit.
They reuse the armour but can't reuse the maps. Makes so much sense...
They can sell armor, but they can’t sell maps.
No reach maps but isnt launch site basically themed after the reach level countdown?
I got major countdown vibes
Because it has a rocketship?
I don't get why they're so opposed to old maps?
Because they'd rather come up with some new ideas for maps instead of circlejerk the old ones over and over, especially considering the different weapon balance and equipment would make the old maps not play very well.
Only the monetization is reach-themed. Gotta milk the fans’ nostalgia for a better game.
$20 no longer seems that bad for getting 6 new maps in the first six months instead of 2, even if they are free.
As it turns out, players are cool with having cosmetics more in line with older games, but would rather not have the same go for the gameplay.
This may be too much too ask, but I want brand-spanking new maps
I just want content lol
Nothing but the cosmetics are Reach themed. We only want the best for our whales. Stay tuned for more cosmetics in the next decade 👊👊
Its ok theres only 2 new maps (1 arena 1 btb) announced so far for season 2, Im hoping for more but the lack of coop and forge has seemingly cut into map design and other areas and with that now being delayed getting more maps seems like a pipe dream
As someone else pointed out, they don’t want to do remakes. But why? Why the fuck wouldnt you give us things we’ve liked before? Why do they insist on all these meaningless changes?
I want the sword base map
Yeah a single Reach map would have been nice and made complete sense and not have been too difficult to implement, wouldn’t it?
I think we some right tweaks a lot of the Reach maps could fit the sandbox. While some Reach maps were annoying with jet pack spam or what not, I think many of them would shine with the better balanced equipment in Infinite. Plus Reach's maps are aesthetically gorgeous and I would love to see something like Spire, Highlands, Boneyard, Tempest or Anchor 9 come back.
Spire, boneyard, uncaged, sword base. Yes please
Honestly, most Reach maps are either campaign imports or forge made remakes. And a lot of them suck, imo.
Not a single reach map is a campaign import.
Because they can cash in on the idea of you playing Reach, but never actually playing it.
I’d love to see their take on Anchor 9 or Powerhouse. Those maps and Spire are probably the most tenable for Infinite, in my opinion.
With how pathetic this launch has been, adding originals/remakes would be such a good idea. They can always remove them after they give us new ones
SWORD BASE???
The game doesn’t even need maps from Halo: Reach but the game literally lacks any maps from the planet Reach. They even had concept art of some Reach based Infinite content and seemingly didn’t use it for launch.
Well they are reaching for something
Let’s be honest, most of the classic maps would play like Behemoth and everyone would hate it.
People are asking the maps like Lock Out and Guardian.
Maybe they could spend a little bit of effort to make them fit?
I mean it barely has anything to do with Reach aside from the selection of armors in the battle pass. The events haven't had anything to do with Reach, theres no "Reach" game modes, armor effects, maps, AI's, weapons, etc.
Sword Base is maybe my favorite map of all time. Or at least top 3. One of those maps where the spawn locations are well laid out, it's easy to get around but also easy to post up and hold your own against other teams, etc. My squad beat many a superior team who had to get through our coordinated defenses.
You camped in gold lift, didn’t you? :P
Reach on MCC doesn't have any Reach maps either. Just boring, generic looking forge world maps.
I miss matchmaking infection on the cage
Reach never had any Reach maps until the DLC. They were either Forge World maps, campaign levels, remakes, or some combination of the 3.
No, cause 80% of Reach's original (not counting remakes) maps are terrible, the other 10% are just ok maps, and the other 10% wouldn't play well without Reach's sandbox.
For real. Worst 4v4 map pool of any Halo game. Maybe Boneyard or Spire would be worth adding (especially for 12v12), but fuck no to 4v4 maps.
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I feel like Bungie totally phoned it in on Reach’s multiplayer, especially with the maps.
I feel like those maps are still better than the last decade of maps for the most part. Better than quite a few that came before, too.
Yeah. Why have those bad maps when we can have Infinite's shittier ones.
Everyone keeps saying add old maps to the new game, and while I understand that and miss some maps as well, don't. Frankly with the new weapons and new abilities it wouldn't work
The most we got was the sabre ship in a map. That's it. That's the reach reference.
That’s why they said swordbase and not one of the worst playing ones
You guys aren’t getting any new content, this game is dead.
well they took inspiration from countdown for one of the maps, and it turned out to be the most dogshit map in infinite
There is a map set on reach, the launch base.
Which got destroyed and also didn’t exist in the first place.
That's not set on Reach; that's the current iteration of the Saber program, not the OG ones on Reach.
Because they were all bad
Well it technically has 1 reach map since the One map I swear is inspired by the Countdown map
I don’t play BTB but for those folks I think they’d enjoy a Blood Gulch type of map.
Missed opportunity imo. They could even just make new maps for that era of the story.
Meh. The only Reach map worth bringing back imo is Spire, and that map was only ever at its best in Invasion (which we obviously don’t have anymore).
So we bring back invasion
They barely have original maps and content bro
Halo Infinite is BARELY Halo based
Infinite barely has maps let alone Reach remakes lol
Season 1, which is based on reach, doesn’t even have all of the reach armor in the game. You have to pay more in the store for certain sets and some only exist for AI to use.
It's simple, they can't monetize maps. Re-use reach armor? Sure, and put a price tag on it.
They better bring back forgeworld when they add forge to infinite
With how advanced this forge looks. We could probably just rebuild forgeword plus more by ourselves lol
Give me every map. Any map. Please
Honestly, I wouldn’t mind if they just copy and pasted old maps in. Content is content, as long as they don’t make what they have worse I’m happy
You guys are still playing?
I'll just quickly talk about the misconception about this season being about Reach. This season is about Noble Team, which makes it weird about the ODST armour, but that's what the seasons for. Plus 343i stated they don't want to add map remakes
I’d take any maps at this point, but remakes are usually an easy slam dunk. I find it weird that they didn’t bolster the map roster with some tried and true classics
Dude imagine a post glassing reach map, how cool would that have been
They dont want to Remake Maps. They also dont want to make New Maps as IT would Seem.
One of the maps has a Sabre at least
And then they name Season 2 'Lone Wolve', even more Reach sounding
Because 343 is set on thinking that they can be original and successful. Many easy things can be done to to appease fans in this game, but 343 is unable/unwilling, depending what story they give that week.
If you’d like to play something really neat in the vein of old maps redone and have mcc pc.. one extremely talented young modder ported the entirety of halo 1 multiplayer into the halo 3 engine. Clearly made with a lot of love and effort.
I rarely see a game seriously link a season theme to in-game gameplay. It may reference lore, or previous games, but doesn't do much to pull those experiences into the new game other than with cosmetics.
There was a mid season update?
Who knows why it was based on reach and you know not on Halo infinite / the banished
glad tbh, Reach maps sucked for the most part
Mostly because it’s hasn’t even been a year and no forge mode is finished for the public. So yeah I didn’t even expect new map packs to come this soon, but goddamn we need it
Yea, sucks
Forge is going to be this games saving grace, when it launches, probably sometime next year (lol)...
Because Reach multiplayer sucked and was responsible for the downfall of competitive. Reach was a good campaign, multiplayer armors were good, and the forge was cool but actual online multiplayer was awful.
Halo Infinite, a game based on the Halo franchise, is a garbage Halo game?!
Reach had pretty garbage maps in my opinion, so nothing of value has really been lost
The game is about a new location.