You aren't lying... All that armor down there... Might as well put it to use... Unless ofcourse... Social programming kicks in and the cannon that appears from the pelvis is too gender specific then we get a boycott on Halo.
I think removing/toning down bloom would make it more viable in SWAT, or, in general. For me the recoil has been easy to manage, but when I need to hit those headshots I always struggle because of bloom (Obviously my aim plays part in it).
A 25 round mag would be nice, but the recoil really isn’t that bad. Treat it like a semi-auto and just pull the trigger once per shot. The recoil is plenty manageable like this and I’ve fucked up a lot of people with the commando
The recoil is alright, the issue is the bloom. The potential ttk is on par with the br and ar, but it blooms enough that even at it's intended range you don't land your shots. You should not need to tap fire a fully automatic weapon to use it within the range it was designed to be optimal in
If i'm on a good day? By far the best weapon I can pick up and shred with. If it's a bad day, I might as well scream at the enemies and I'll be more effective.
Overall, a very satisfying gun. Definitely needs a little buff, and I'll never use it in ranked because BR is much more consistent, but I'm happy to take it in BTB.
A very bland assault rifle style weapon without a big enough mag or high enough damage to make it worth using over an AR nor enough headshit damage or low enough recoil to use over a BR which are both as common as it is. How's that for a run on sentence?!
Thinking the commando is bugged. We noticed how super sensitive aiming is with this... when it shouldn't be much different from aiming the BR? It's really difficult to stay on target with this thing.
Been using it more and more, really comfortable with it now and I can comfortably out shoot BR users in Onyx level ranked games with it. I used to hate it but I think I was just using it wrong the whole time by spraying and hoping for the best :) Unshielded bodyshot damage is maybe a bit weak tho
It needs..... something. Less bloom, killing with one less shot, etc. The commando can still shred if you can control the bloom well enough, but it simply feels inconsistent compared to the battle rifle, even if it kills slightly faster. I do think that the upcoming change to have weapon rack spawns be symmetrical between teams will help there, since you won't be in that situation as often where your team only has commandos to work with against the longer ranged br.
Honestly it just needs to be fully hit scan instead of projectile based and it would be fine even with bloom. Trying to lead shots with bloom makes me lose 90% of strafe battles with it when it should be the other way around against a BR. I usually only pick it up so I have a weapon if my br runs dry in a fight, but fully auto should always have the advantage in a strafe over burst fire.
It is a terrible replacement for the DMR. It is also a bad gun in general. I can use it, but I don’t like using it. It feels like an inconvenience just picking it up. The idea of a fully automatic precision weapon is a bad concept to begin with, and the execution doesn’t help that in the slightest. Precision weapons should be semi automatic. A full auto precision weapon isn’t very, well, precise, and so it isn’t really a precision weapon anymore
I think if its supposed to be interchangeable with the Battle Rifle then it should at least have the same level zoom. The scope being so low doesn't help accuracy in ranged gunfights especially against the Battle Rifle
Ah the "git gud" mentality. Yeah that's just dumb, doesn't matter if it's a good player or bad player, both will pick up a BR, or even an assualt rifle depending on the map, instead because of inconsistency of the weapon. When it works it is highly satisfying, but that's "when it works". People who make posts like this are always insecure try hard trash players. The weapon needs a buff period, it simply doesn't have a place in the sandbox.
The “gap” that there is between the player and minimum range for aim assist to take effect is an extremely odd design choice that makes the game feel worse as a whole IMO…
It's weak. At its current damage level, it needs a much larger clip, at least 35. For as much recoil it as it has it actually packs very little punch. Considering how weak it is, the recoil should be reduced.
Yes. The commando is difficult to get used to but once you do, it’s very lethal. I don’t know how to say it but people need to git gud with it. If they don’t it’s not a big deal because they have the BR.
I can both aim and use it correctly and I'll still tell you it's not that good. It's been nerfed into the dirt, landing every single shot and it's ttk is still just way too slow.
Redundant. We already have an assault rifle. It should be a DMR - but then, we had a DMR. Best way to use it is tap fire it, which then makes it behave like the Sidekick.
There are already two weapons in Infinite which are basically "the CE Magnum but actually balanced": The Stalker Rifle and the Mangler. They both have the famous 2 body 1 head shot to kill. One is balanced to be more effective at long range and the other is better for close range.
Not a DMR Alternative, That's the Stalker Rifle. A Good Support Weapon to the Battle Rifle and Assault Rifle especially in ranked. Just wish the recoil was reduced a bit to lower the skill floor a bit.
My favorite thing about the commando is that the Ranked playlist in Infinite only has four maps and 343i thought this was acceptable for Xbox’s flagship series
Pointless position in the sandbox and just has no purpose. Before Infinite, I thought it was just going to make the BR and AR pointless, but they actually make it pointless
Once I learned how to use it I don’t mind it and can actually get kills with it now. It’s not something I get excited about getting on fiesta but I don’t groan anymore. I’ll take it over the plasma piston, plasma rifle, or ravager.
the Commando looks like it has a collapsable stock, in the collapsed position, I think if would look a lot better with the stock in the extended position.
It was better in the pre-launch test. Recoil was less punishing, and it was about on-par with the BR in damage. It didn't get the Ravager treatment, thank Christ, but the changes made forced it down a few notches in selection choice.
It has the anesthetics of the R-301 from Titanfall/Apex which is one if my favorite styles of rifle, with absolutely NONE of the smooth feel or reliability.
i have no idea what purpose it serves, even after trying many strategies and styles of approach at diferent distances, i always feel "i could have done this better with AR" when upclose, or "i could have done this better with BR" at further away, both guns being as capable in-between ranges
I think it's nice for opponents with no shield, which makes it a good combo for plasma weapons. It does have too much recoil, not enough shield/body damage and a slightly small magazine
Honestly, I feel like it's totally overshadowed by the Sidekick in particular, and the BR with which it's supposed to compete, and as a result has trouble seeing play.
Besides being better at range due to the zoom and the reticle, the pistol is way better. I think it actually does less damage per shot than the pistol.
It tries to be both a DMR and LMG but kinda flops on both. It’s not an inherently bad weapon, especially if you can get headshots it’ll land like a truck, but that recoil and bloom make it hard to do so. C tier, if they can nerf the recoil and bloom, and make it either an LMG or DMR, not both, then it’d be solid
It looks cool. But isn't powerful enough or accurate enough. It also looks quite impractical. The grip to stalk length is really short. Seems like it would be a real pain to fire accurately for anyone other than a Spartan. Not sure why they introduced this and didn't bring back the SMG, DMR or SAW.
It needs an underwear weapon attachment
.... Hm grenade launcher? Or jockstrap.
You aren't lying... All that armor down there... Might as well put it to use... Unless ofcourse... Social programming kicks in and the cannon that appears from the pelvis is too gender specific then we get a boycott on Halo.
It would be sick if it was the only rifle that didn’t de-scope, since it’s technically a reflex sight
You know what? That's actually a great idea to fix the weapon, but wouldn't that make it insanely powerful though?
Needs a slightly bigger mag or slightly less recoil in my opinion.
Lore: “Spartans are super powerful”
more ammo when I pick it up in mp....I run it dry so fast and the BR ammo just lasts an eternity by comparison.
I dont know abou the mag, but it realy needs less bloom in my opinion
I think removing/toning down bloom would make it more viable in SWAT, or, in general. For me the recoil has been easy to manage, but when I need to hit those headshots I always struggle because of bloom (Obviously my aim plays part in it).
It’s better on hip fire if you’re not gonna shoot single shot bursts
It needs both, it should never lose to an adult rifle, yet I would choose the assault rifle over commando any day
Both, it needs both.
A 25 round mag would be nice, but the recoil really isn’t that bad. Treat it like a semi-auto and just pull the trigger once per shot. The recoil is plenty manageable like this and I’ve fucked up a lot of people with the commando
A lot of Recoil.
The recoil is alright, the issue is the bloom. The potential ttk is on par with the br and ar, but it blooms enough that even at it's intended range you don't land your shots. You should not need to tap fire a fully automatic weapon to use it within the range it was designed to be optimal in
It has a skill ceiling, but I think it's sligtly underpowered. A great commando player will lose to a decent br player 9 times out of ten.
In all seriousness, more body shot damage than the AR would be nice
I swear it feels like the Assault rifle does more headshot damage too.
My thoughts: I miss the DMR.
I miss the classic Shotgun and Covvie Carbine...
Why did they get rid of it in the first place??? 4 and 5 were fine having both of them in there...
I miss it already
When I first played Infinite (no beta) I thought it was a redesigned DMR until I fired it and was confused
If i'm on a good day? By far the best weapon I can pick up and shred with. If it's a bad day, I might as well scream at the enemies and I'll be more effective.
I want the DMR back
Recoil needs to be reduced or make it kill in one less shot. It was perfect in the flights, don't know why they changed it.
because they love to change things that don't need changing, and refuse to change things that do need changing
Overall, a very satisfying gun. Definitely needs a little buff, and I'll never use it in ranked because BR is much more consistent, but I'm happy to take it in BTB.
I miss my dmr
Same. Halo 5 sandbox >
Ah yes, a fellow man of culture I see
There is the Stalker Rifle
Lord Saladman, my Lord, my saviour. What were they thinking?
For how much recoil it has it should definitely hit harder than it does.
A very bland assault rifle style weapon without a big enough mag or high enough damage to make it worth using over an AR nor enough headshit damage or low enough recoil to use over a BR which are both as common as it is. How's that for a run on sentence?!
I think it should take the roll of a medium range supressive fire weapon. It should have a lot of reserve ammo but not actually be that good.
Thinking the commando is bugged. We noticed how super sensitive aiming is with this... when it shouldn't be much different from aiming the BR? It's really difficult to stay on target with this thing.
Great weapon. Although sometimes it feels off
Been using it more and more, really comfortable with it now and I can comfortably out shoot BR users in Onyx level ranked games with it. I used to hate it but I think I was just using it wrong the whole time by spraying and hoping for the best :) Unshielded bodyshot damage is maybe a bit weak tho
It is certainly a weapon that exists
Command-NO
Spartans can flip a tank with their bare hands but hold a rifle on target ? Impossible.
It needs..... something. Less bloom, killing with one less shot, etc. The commando can still shred if you can control the bloom well enough, but it simply feels inconsistent compared to the battle rifle, even if it kills slightly faster. I do think that the upcoming change to have weapon rack spawns be symmetrical between teams will help there, since you won't be in that situation as often where your team only has commandos to work with against the longer ranged br.
Honestly it just needs to be fully hit scan instead of projectile based and it would be fine even with bloom. Trying to lead shots with bloom makes me lose 90% of strafe battles with it when it should be the other way around against a BR. I usually only pick it up so I have a weapon if my br runs dry in a fight, but fully auto should always have the advantage in a strafe over burst fire.
It is a terrible replacement for the DMR. It is also a bad gun in general. I can use it, but I don’t like using it. It feels like an inconvenience just picking it up. The idea of a fully automatic precision weapon is a bad concept to begin with, and the execution doesn’t help that in the slightest. Precision weapons should be semi automatic. A full auto precision weapon isn’t very, well, precise, and so it isn’t really a precision weapon anymore
Hey the needle rifle was decently precise and it was full auto lol
Not good.
Needs 5 more rounds in the magazine then it's balanced.
Looks better than it works
More damage needed
Damage is really high in my opinion. It's just ahrd to land shots. A few extra bullets in a Mag (say 26) might make it more viable.
Extremely oppressive in a good player's hands, and a wet towel in a bad ones.
I think if its supposed to be interchangeable with the Battle Rifle then it should at least have the same level zoom. The scope being so low doesn't help accuracy in ranged gunfights especially against the Battle Rifle
Ah the "git gud" mentality. Yeah that's just dumb, doesn't matter if it's a good player or bad player, both will pick up a BR, or even an assualt rifle depending on the map, instead because of inconsistency of the weapon. When it works it is highly satisfying, but that's "when it works". People who make posts like this are always insecure try hard trash players. The weapon needs a buff period, it simply doesn't have a place in the sandbox.
meh. needs bigger mag or less recoil. other than that, it's amazing.
Ass of a weapon
RECOILLLLLLLL
It was great in the flights
I'm getting much more used to how to actually use it, but I still really don't like it at much as the BR
I really don't like it and I don't think it should be in swat
The recoil so bad that if it were lore correct, Marines would rip in half from shooting it
Manageable because of the zoom, borderline bad
The “gap” that there is between the player and minimum range for aim assist to take effect is an extremely odd design choice that makes the game feel worse as a whole IMO…
Good thing I use mouse haha
It was far better in the flights.
Was great in test flights, awful in live
Bloom is way too high. Miss the DMR/Carbine.
Great sniper when everything else is gone
The gun could be really cool if bloom didn’t exist and projectiles were used to balance range effectiveness in this game.
A bit under powered, but definitely undervalued by the Community at large.
High skill floor, high skill ceiling. Can decimate in the right situations
It's a NERF Khaos. Can't convince me otherwise.
Sometimes shit sometimes good or I’m just a shit player
I think it needs less recoil
It's weak. At its current damage level, it needs a much larger clip, at least 35. For as much recoil it as it has it actually packs very little punch. Considering how weak it is, the recoil should be reduced.
I fucking love this gun and shit on people with it constantly. STOP THE SLANDER
Sucks
Good gun but really needs a buff.
Worse than the AR at short-medium range and worse than the BR at mid-long range
The recoil suuuuuuuuuuuucks.
It makes for a better bludgeon than a firearm
Amazing, anyone who says otherwise either can’t aim or uses it wrong.
Yes. The commando is difficult to get used to but once you do, it’s very lethal. I don’t know how to say it but people need to git gud with it. If they don’t it’s not a big deal because they have the BR.
I can both aim and use it correctly and I'll still tell you it's not that good. It's been nerfed into the dirt, landing every single shot and it's ttk is still just way too slow.
AR and Magnum had a baby that disappointed the entire family.
Super effective if used a certain way, in most cases though I’d probably prefer to still use the AR or BR.
If it would kill in one less bullet at most ranges I would be ok with it.
Too much recoil for me. To compensate a higher damage rate would be nice. AKA just give us the DMR back
Unnecessary in the halo sandbox
It sucks
Wish it was the DMR instead
It's alright but definitely hard to use
commando
Feels out of place. Aesthetically, it looks like it got pulled out of CoD: Infinite Warfare
You mean like modern scifi weaponry? What exactly does it need to look like
inferior to the br and ar in every way needs a massive buff
Where is DMR?
How do you say dogshit politely?
Redundant. We already have an assault rifle. It should be a DMR - but then, we had a DMR. Best way to use it is tap fire it, which then makes it behave like the Sidekick.
There are already two weapons in Infinite which are basically "the CE Magnum but actually balanced": The Stalker Rifle and the Mangler. They both have the famous 2 body 1 head shot to kill. One is balanced to be more effective at long range and the other is better for close range.
I love it, feels good and does good dmg
Love it in campaign but online I f*cking hate it. To much recoil.
Hate it
less bloom
I think it feels great. I can consistently get kills at long and mid range. SWAT with it is super fun.
I like it a lot
Hated it until I started using it like a pistol. Not too bad now. Still miss the DMR.
Works descent but you can’t go full clip auto. Single shots to the dome are quite effective!
The upgraded variant has a scope with even less zoom than the default one, is extremely inaccurate, yet says its more effective at range.
Love it. It's great on larger maps, especially in BTB. Cheat code when using MnK.
Kills many grunts, shoot good.
Not a DMR Alternative, That's the Stalker Rifle. A Good Support Weapon to the Battle Rifle and Assault Rifle especially in ranked. Just wish the recoil was reduced a bit to lower the skill floor a bit.
Commando is goated on controller but ass on M&K.
The son between DMR and Assaults Rifle
I'm to bad to use it
Probs my fave weapon for the campaign its a very satisfying weapon, much worse for multiplayer though I usually use br instead
It needs more ammo in the mag and more ammo when you pick it up
Could be better.
Bigger reticle
Underrated. I destroy with this thing and it’s satisfying getting kills with it
I don't understand it but I'm determined to get good with it
The Battle Rifle is more powerful!
It needs a buff. Either a bigger mag (x1.5) or more damage.
Trying to hard to be a DMR and AR
My favorite thing about the commando is that the Ranked playlist in Infinite only has four maps and 343i thought this was acceptable for Xbox’s flagship series
Aesthetically it’s a really cool gun, I love the concept of a heavy longer range AR.
A commando can shred in the right hands and circumstances, but if I see a BR I'll take it.
A good weapon, but it has to much recoil for my liking
Needs less recoil or more damage per bullet. It’s close to being a decent gun but it’s not quite there.
Definitely too much recoil
I miss the SMG
Pointless position in the sandbox and just has no purpose. Before Infinite, I thought it was just going to make the BR and AR pointless, but they actually make it pointless
It's satisfyin' to use. But still feels off to me.
Useless in this state of the game. and commando tactical slayer is an inconsistent nightmare
Can be really good in the right situation but there’s weapons that are way better than it.
Combine the commando and the pulse rifle and call it the needle rifle imo
Once I learned how to use it I don’t mind it and can actually get kills with it now. It’s not something I get excited about getting on fiesta but I don’t groan anymore. I’ll take it over the plasma piston, plasma rifle, or ravager.
It’s an unnecessary addition and we should have received the Battle Rifle from the Halo 2 E3 demo (3rd burst from the hip and single shot scoped).
It needs slightly more/less lots of things, it just doesn't feel "good" at the moment, horrible trying to get that final headshot on PC at times.
I personally hate it. Takes too many bullets to kill. Maybe I just suck with it lol
its very satisfying but runs of ammo wayy to fast
It's all right, still prefer a BR though.
Amazing
the Commando looks like it has a collapsable stock, in the collapsed position, I think if would look a lot better with the stock in the extended position.
Hate.
Trash, bring back the DMR
Hot garbage.
It was better in the pre-launch test. Recoil was less punishing, and it was about on-par with the BR in damage. It didn't get the Ravager treatment, thank Christ, but the changes made forced it down a few notches in selection choice.
Feels like ice skating. If it had less recoil, it would be a go-to for me.
feather it and its strong hold it and it a potato
It has the anesthetics of the R-301 from Titanfall/Apex which is one if my favorite styles of rifle, with absolutely NONE of the smooth feel or reliability.
i have no idea what purpose it serves, even after trying many strategies and styles of approach at diferent distances, i always feel "i could have done this better with AR" when upclose, or "i could have done this better with BR" at further away, both guns being as capable in-between ranges
A baby between the AR and BR
Tap fire with it and it’s just as good as the BR.
Less recoil is needed then it's a strong equal to the battle rifle, and assault rifle.
I wreck face with it. The patches made it much better.
Shit
Fun as shit!
It's shit
It goes bang. Recoil is like fucking me with a flashbang
It's a weird weapon....
The other precision weapon that spawns instead of the BR
Dogshit.
Less recoil and more ammo. Slow in speed than a BR but packing a bigger punch when shot. BR is great all arounder I just wish it stacked up.
Spartans don’t wear panties
I suck so bad with it. Hate it lol
It sucks. But it saved my ass a couple times.
Love/hate it, sometimes it works really well, but sometimes the recoil betrays me. I think with the recoil it has, bullets should do more damage.
I think it's nice for opponents with no shield, which makes it a good combo for plasma weapons. It does have too much recoil, not enough shield/body damage and a slightly small magazine
Buff
Less recoil tho that probably would require a damage nerf
I like it. It’s an interesting alternative to the DMR. It’s harder to use, but I find it more rewarding because of that.
This gun was super fun and satisfying to use during the SWAT / TacOps event. Honestly was one of my favourite weapons
I remember hating how OP it was in the BTB flight. Nowadays I hesitate to even pick it up lmao. It's not bad in campaign tho.
It's pretty good for what it is but I feel like a lot of better weapons from previous games could of been better
I would rather have this than the starting ar
Treat it like a semi auto gun and you’ll rack up kills. And since most people dont pick it up im always able to get one if a br is t available
Don’t think it was needed. Just give us the DMR or BR
Honestly, I feel like it's totally overshadowed by the Sidekick in particular, and the BR with which it's supposed to compete, and as a result has trouble seeing play.
I don't want it
Honestly I'm getting the hang of it
the tap fire is alright but it’s tricky
Shit gun. But maybe that’s just bias and skill issues
mid af
Needs 1.5x more damage
Besides being better at range due to the zoom and the reticle, the pistol is way better. I think it actually does less damage per shot than the pistol.
Needs less recoil.
It tries to be both a DMR and LMG but kinda flops on both. It’s not an inherently bad weapon, especially if you can get headshots it’ll land like a truck, but that recoil and bloom make it hard to do so. C tier, if they can nerf the recoil and bloom, and make it either an LMG or DMR, not both, then it’d be solid
The cammando is my favorite gun in video game history
It looks cool. But isn't powerful enough or accurate enough. It also looks quite impractical. The grip to stalk length is really short. Seems like it would be a real pain to fire accurately for anyone other than a Spartan. Not sure why they introduced this and didn't bring back the SMG, DMR or SAW.
Underwear keeps everything in place but at home, commando is the only way to go
i miss the DMR tbh lol.