The advantage of that is you look old at the start, but you look young when you're supposed to be old. not sure if that makes any sense, it sounded smarter in my head lol
Alright so I am one of those guys. Looked 42 at 22. Could flirt with moms and college girls at 20. But the weird thing is the baby pictures, my head/face structure has never changed. Evan Bouchard of the Oilers has the same shit going on.
Its funny when islander fans say hes old and glad we didnt sign him blah blah blah. I had an argument with a fellow fan who claimed brock nelson was better.
I mean. The quality of roster and linemates in toronto is significantly better. Long island never had anyone close to marner the entire time tavares was there
I would say lived up to his reputation at best. One of those 11M guys need to take over a series for it to make sense, as being ppg or slightly above isn’t good enough.
Sort of, but aside from the teammate aspect like others mentioned scoring is up massively the past few years compared to his islander days, so putting up the same totals is less impressive
Ya ovechkin isn’t impressive because he could score 50 10+ years ago. He’s impressive because he can still do it now. He’s beat Father Time better than any player in history.
Goes to work at 9 punches out at 5. Get his work done, says good morning and good bye, with a comment amount traffic and the weather in between. Hasn't updated his social media profile picture in 5 years, but it's ok because he hasn't changed his haircut or clothing style since then.
Also this may not be a good point but I feel like toronto is a significantly more offensive team than the islanders. Its a lot easier to rack up 20 more points on that powerplay alone but also getting better matchups because top d pairings will always play matthews line
The question is is the increase in scoring just because it’s easier to score or is it because there’s more elite talent? If it’s because there is more elite talent this shows Tavares level of play has stayed constant just other more talented players passed him. If you look at the top 20 scorers from last year and look at where they were in 2014-15 I think it shows that it’s the latter.
JT was my favorite when he was an Islander. Obviously have mixed feelings on him now but he's always been a very solid and consistent producer. He has good hockey IQ and just knows where to be near the net and is a good playmaker.
He has a way better offensive supporting cast in Toronto than he ever did in NYI, exception would be Barzal's rookie season. Don't think it makes him worth $11m.
Is it me or is this a tiny bit negative because those Islanders teams were largely trash, while the Leads he’s been on have had some of the best offensive players in the game + a higher scoring era?
Jeez, comments like this are sad. He’s a scum bag for not wanting to be traded and signed with a different team? Ultimately, that’s on the GM. You guys immediately went to 2 straight conference finals, and are having another good season this year. I think it’s time to dry the tears and move on.
He did nothing wrong. I have yet to find any source that shows he actually asked not to be traded. The fault is entirely on Snow for not trading him when he could have IMO
Whether or not they should have added Tavares seems to be a subject of debate (could that cap space have been used on other players? Did signing Tavares lead to higher salaries for Marner and Matthews? Should Matthews be captain? Etc.).
Either the graphics or the labels are flipped around right? I'm not living in a weird alternate dimension where he was drafted by the Leafs and went to the Isles in free agency?
Last season I was on the fence with regards to Tavares and his play, but this season, he’s really coming into his owner again, and as Matthews continues to find his groove, Tavares has filled the void nicely!
Never 100 points in a season. Never 50 goals in a season. Not a career point per game player. Hasn't won a single individual award. Yep! Definitely pay that man over 10.0m AAV!
It's how money is spent on this team. And how will the next few years ago? 3 players making over 10, Willy over 7. As a Leaf fan, hell no. It never works and won't.
tavares has looked like a 35 year old since he was 16
He’s like a hard lived Zachary Quinto.
And Palmeiri has looked like Tavares since he was 16 l (I assume. Unless Palmeiri was a late bloomer)
The advantage of that is you look old at the start, but you look young when you're supposed to be old. not sure if that makes any sense, it sounded smarter in my head lol
Alright so I am one of those guys. Looked 42 at 22. Could flirt with moms and college girls at 20. But the weird thing is the baby pictures, my head/face structure has never changed. Evan Bouchard of the Oilers has the same shit going on.
If you mean the left pic, that was from around 2018. If you don't mean that, then I'm dumb.
Taveras, father of Makar and Briere.
So basically Tavares has lived up to his reputation and then some as a maple leaf.
Its funny when islander fans say hes old and glad we didnt sign him blah blah blah. I had an argument with a fellow fan who claimed brock nelson was better.
I mean. The quality of roster and linemates in toronto is significantly better. Long island never had anyone close to marner the entire time tavares was there
One could argue that because he’s been on a better team, his numbers should be better. But that’s all hypothetical, can’t really make that assertion.
Unfortunately yeah
And he's doing it on the second line!
Idk he took a dip on 5v5 goals
I would say lived up to his reputation at best. One of those 11M guys need to take over a series for it to make sense, as being ppg or slightly above isn’t good enough.
Correct. I despise the Leafs with ever fibre of my being but Tavares is a Hall of Famer doing Hall of Fame things.
I will say tho the expectation should be that his stats are way better with TOR due to having such higher talented linemates around him.
Sort of, but aside from the teammate aspect like others mentioned scoring is up massively the past few years compared to his islander days, so putting up the same totals is less impressive
I mean he plays on a stacked offense in toronto
His linemates are better now and scoring in the league is way up, so not really.
Well. On a fair bit better team, no?
I wouldn't say that. Look at who he's playing with in Toronto vs NYI.
Consistent. Which is nice to see in a player who is aging, not always the case.
Ya ovechkin isn’t impressive because he could score 50 10+ years ago. He’s impressive because he can still do it now. He’s beat Father Time better than any player in history.
Shooters don't age as poorly as grinders. He can play physically, but his strength has always been his shot, and that's easier to hold onto.
Are there people (who aren't delirious) who actually think that Matthews will beat Ovie numbers?
Mr. Consistency
Just a good ol’ blue collar beautician
I’m shocked that it’s already been 299 games with TOR. Feels like yesterday.
100% I feel like he was an islanders for a decade and a leaf for two years
Minus 4 goals and 7 points incoming to maintain the symmetry.
“Why is Tavares shooting at Kallgren?”
I'll always remember him as "Pajama Robot Boy".
i hate "pajama boy" but ive been calling him a robot since like 2013, hes always been like that.
Why wouldn't you wait one more game to make that statistic exactly even? That's just strange.
They are playing the islanders and that is more relevant. I blame the nhl lol
They played the Islanders tonight in his 300th game as a Leaf. (He scored a goal.)
Assuming this was shown just ahead of his 300th game as a leaf, which would make sense to me.
Ok I’ll make the graphic more clear…
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He truly is the most boring man in the world.
Goes to work at 9 punches out at 5. Get his work done, says good morning and good bye, with a comment amount traffic and the weather in between. Hasn't updated his social media profile picture in 5 years, but it's ok because he hasn't changed his haircut or clothing style since then.
Underrated comment
Would like to also see his MPG in these span of games.
He gets 30 miles per gallon
Dude's a hockey playing machine. He may not be the flashiest but he's consistently doing good stuff.
Dude is a machine. One of the nastiest snapshots in the league.
Have you ever seen him talk? He might actually be a machine.
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They neglected to put up the only stat that actually matters, man days on earth.
Yea last year for forwards
On the other side of the coin, they should compare ice time too because Tavares isn't a first line player in Toronto like he was in NY.
Not to mention he’s now seeing a team’s second d pairing with Matthews occupying the top pairing. As an Isle, every team only focused on him.
Also this may not be a good point but I feel like toronto is a significantly more offensive team than the islanders. Its a lot easier to rack up 20 more points on that powerplay alone but also getting better matchups because top d pairings will always play matthews line
The question is is the increase in scoring just because it’s easier to score or is it because there’s more elite talent? If it’s because there is more elite talent this shows Tavares level of play has stayed constant just other more talented players passed him. If you look at the top 20 scorers from last year and look at where they were in 2014-15 I think it shows that it’s the latter.
Gaudreau ($9.75m) and Panarin ($11.6m) are the only other players ahead of him who switched teams as free agents.
He's a soulless hockey robot.
he so good. would have loved for him to stay.
Would have loved to have gotten anything at all for him
afterbefore
That's actually more impressive as Islander...with zero supporting cast.
How has he already played 299 games for the leafs? That’s surreal to me.
Scoring has gone up though. Those Islanders years being close to ppg was much more elite
JT was my favorite when he was an Islander. Obviously have mixed feelings on him now but he's always been a very solid and consistent producer. He has good hockey IQ and just knows where to be near the net and is a good playmaker.
Hes not a hofer.
Here here!
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.
Not even 1ppg, overrated imo.
Tavares scrub status confirmed.
This dude couldn't wait one more game to 300 before posting this?
He has a way better offensive supporting cast in Toronto than he ever did in NYI, exception would be Barzal's rookie season. Don't think it makes him worth $11m.
salty, but correct. however... looking at his AvgTOI, it reduced from ~20:30 with NYI to ~18:00 with TOR (
JT was who we thought he was! 👌
is Tavares a HOFer?
If he keeps up his current pace for a few more years he will be. Looks like he will exceed 500 goals and 1100 points so I’d have to say he gets in.
Those jersey advertisements are so fucking stupid
Barely even noticeable. Just need something to complain about, huh?
Islanders went to the second round when he left....
With all of the young flash that the leaves have I think he’s a great fit for captain
Is it me or is this a tiny bit negative because those Islanders teams were largely trash, while the Leads he’s been on have had some of the best offensive players in the game + a higher scoring era?
Nah, these Leafs teams are trash too
He plays like three minutes less a game now in Toronto than he did in NYI, that's a big difference.
Not consistent enough
OK now count playoff wins
Last 300 Games as an Islander: 8 Playoff Wins
Would that be 0 for Toronto?
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Jeez, comments like this are sad. He’s a scum bag for not wanting to be traded and signed with a different team? Ultimately, that’s on the GM. You guys immediately went to 2 straight conference finals, and are having another good season this year. I think it’s time to dry the tears and move on.
This post literally justifies the $11 M??
He did nothing wrong. I have yet to find any source that shows he actually asked not to be traded. The fault is entirely on Snow for not trading him when he could have IMO
Good luck tonight!
Why didn’t they show playoff rounds won?
9 seasons with NYI: 1 series win
Because we're demonstrating the consistency of Tavares, not the consistency of cosmic curses
Same same, but different
He’s been in Toronto that long?
Wow Mr. Consistent..
If anything, he is consistent.
Leafs should pay that Mitch marner for making Tavares into the man he is.
One of the most consistent players in the NHL over the last decade.
Remarkably consistent
Now do the salary over the same period.
I miss him so much man hes the guy who got me into hockey
That’s seriously impressive for a free agent signing.
It wasn’t as if he was cast aside by his former team and resurrected his career.
The man is consistent
I guess $11m is the new going rate for a point/game player.
Same as it ever was, same as it ever was
For an extra 7 points, it wasn’t worth slapping an ad on him
Captain Consistency?
Well, at least he's consistent.
Whether or not they should have added Tavares seems to be a subject of debate (could that cap space have been used on other players? Did signing Tavares lead to higher salaries for Marner and Matthews? Should Matthews be captain? Etc.).
I love this man robot. I'm glad he's thriving in Toronto, and I'm glad he's kept up the production.
Not even a point per game, 4th liner at best /s
Shame on John.
Either the graphics or the labels are flipped around right? I'm not living in a weird alternate dimension where he was drafted by the Leafs and went to the Isles in free agency?
Captain consistency.
Last season I was on the fence with regards to Tavares and his play, but this season, he’s really coming into his owner again, and as Matthews continues to find his groove, Tavares has filled the void nicely!
Should someone tell OP that 300 + 299 isn't 600?
Truly rivetting
Why didn’t they add “playoff series wins”
Wait this doesn't live up to the narrative that it's an awful anchor contract?
Management needs you to find the difference meme…
Seems like they got what they paid for
I read that last row as "Own goals" and was like wow that's a lot.
Never 100 points in a season. Never 50 goals in a season. Not a career point per game player. Hasn't won a single individual award. Yep! Definitely pay that man over 10.0m AAV!
How much did each team roughly spend on his salary for those 600 games?
It's how money is spent on this team. And how will the next few years ago? 3 players making over 10, Willy over 7. As a Leaf fan, hell no. It never works and won't.