If you have enough experience and influence, you can tell the team to have less meetings, people generally don’t like meetings anyway and would listen to you.
It’s tough. I feel I was recently ambushed on a J3 where I was told there would be a ton of work-life balance and “surprise,” I already have 3 hours of meetings a day.
Finding out that people really spend 4 hours a day on meeting for the amount of pay they say is really eye opening as to the amount of money companies pay just for meetings.
You’re also making a significant saving on vehicle expenses by not driving as much, and you’re writing off a cut of your utilities to run a home office.
I'm only at around $75K/yr on 3 jobs, though I'm living in a third world country. Plus my wife managed to build 3 businesses generating income of almost that level. Will inject more capital to increase sales and capacity.
I’m in contract management and I get $116,000 on J1 and $105,000 on J2 so a total of $221,000/yr. I should add that I’m a woman with children since I don’t see many women on here.
I m a woman also, my kids are older now (and so am I). I'm a Sox-Internal control manger in both Js. J1 is $131+$12K and J2 is $115+15%. TC is $275,000/ year.
Hey! I’m in contract management too and have been afraid of pursuing OE because of the field we’re in. I’m also a mama too! Mind if I DM you a couple of questions?
410k, twenty-something female SWE. J1: 180k, full time series B startup. J2: 170k, contract large corporation. J3: 60k, freelance part time gig that keeps giving me more hours.
Regardless of how much you make. I honestly admire that you even have jobs that you can OE with and manage at the same time! We see most of the people in the sub that already OE. Not all the people lurking that haven’t been able to do it successfully or do it at all! This is only the beginning! Always look for the next best paying! You got this!
156k, j1: 64k, takes about an hour to 2 of work per day never really talk to anyone there except a work buddy occasionally - j2: 92k newer ft. Probably pretty low compared to some of you all on here. Cheers!
😮💨 I have to get my life together J1 53k, J2 65K…. Here I was thinking I was doing something 😂😂 I need to break into tech. I’m in Management. One finance, other CS 🙃 118k isn’t too bad starting out
I'm baby comp compared to most people here but I make $125k between two jobs. One job is a mid level cog analyst at a very very very large insurance company which is maybe the most inefficient place I've ever worked at. 3 hours of work a day maximum. 10% bonus at the end of the year though.
J1- $58k J2- $62k Both are task based. I actually have been in meetings at the same time. But I’m known for being quiet so I just don’t talk. J2 is a short contract so I’m going to start looking for another
Isn't mortgaging more efficient? Because instead of buying 1 house in cash you can technically buy 5 houses on mortgages and rent them out or flip them and make more money?
Definitely not a brag haha, 110K~ (program manager), 24k~ (social media manager, retainer contract), 20k~ (random front end web dev projects and contracts).
120k from a single job. Planning on going J2, maybe even low effort J3 next month. Scared as fuck ngl, it's been like a year now since I first started "planning" it all.
TC: $300,000 base across three jobs; 2 are W2 sales base + comm., one is a consultant role I run through my own company. Expected total commission/bonus to be $25k min., $45k max.
That's awesome, good for you and your wife! I can only imagine how huge of a help it is going OE route while starting a new family. Best of luck to you both!
I think I’m at like $280k ish with two jobs? Ones a contract with no pto and the other has an annual bonus so it will fluctuate a bit. I’m trying to talk myself out of quitting j2 everyday for the last two weeks but I’m still hanging on.
Not even close to Lambo money. Even if you’re single you gonna lose like 30% to taxes right off the bat and then housing and retirement accounts gonna eat even more and you’ll be left with surprisingly less than you think. Throw a family into the mix and $230k ain’t shit.
Thats not as much money as you’d think. Sure single, maybeee but even then. 230k is only like 170k after taxes. 170k for 5 years is to retire is nowhere near enough my dude. You still have expenses so housing 4k a month, car $600-700, food and entertainment. Shit adds up quickly. Now throw in a family and its basically nothing to retire.
I think 250K is kinda average out from total 2 jobs within 8-12 hours window seems an ideal results. Of course, the numbers may vary with the no. of jobs and pay rates.
240k total. Two jobs. 100% remote on both. 1 job I could do with my toes. The other is killing me but I keep it to 40-45hrs a week. Always looking for a j3!
This looks awesome! I'm in the same domain but less compensation. The threshold almost all the companies say is 150K CAD per job. Are you doing both FTE or contract?
320k. J1 I’m a director of marketing, j2 I’m an account executive in tech. I work more hours than I wished and managing conflicting meetings gets tough at times.
180k. 8 hours a day. Full time job with meetings and several part time jobs with no meetings. I do the work of the part time jobs at my desk for my full time job.
J1: $90k, J2: $95k for $185k total both in digital design field. J2 team is mostly based on the other side of the world so they are all done for the day right after a short daily call i have in the morning which is before I even start J1.
SWE from Poland here. I currently make 50k pln a month in my 2 Js, which is around $10500. May not seem like a lot but it gets me and my family a decent standard of living and I can save a ton (>50%).
$205k TC - 1 FT job and 1 PT job - spend roughly 30 hours per week and use the spare time to hang with my pup :) been so great to have the extra income! Love the community
Was 455k/yr(j1 - 70k, j2-50k, j3-155k, j4-180k) not too long ago but now 160k(j1 - 110k, j2 - 50k) . All are full-stack dev roles except for my J2 which is teaching.
$185k and I still feel like it’s nothing 🥲 I’m thankful that both companies aren’t meeting heavy at all. I probably talk to my bosses once a week. Otherwise it’s quick notes here and there.
$112k from 2 jobs. J1 - $50k salary J2 -$62k/yr hourly employee Initially I was going to quit J1 after I used my PTO since I knew they wouldn’t pay out. Decided I would just do both to see if it was possible. 3 months in and thrilled that I didn’t play it safe and quit J1 when I accepted offer for J2. Some changes happening at J1 so just hoping I can stick it out at least until EOY and pay off some debts.
Im lucky if i even make $700 a paycheck. (Disclaimer I only work one job, am a student, and my work week depends entirely upon the amount of events we have booked per week.)
For those in tech, your jobs don't flag you for doing this and having a conflict of interest for ur 2nd job? I work at one of the Big 4 consulting firms, and I honestly would love to do this to pay off student loans. But I can't, that's a big no no unless they approve.
$175k TC with 2 jobs plus $10k-ish bonus at J2. Total about 9-10 hours per day but I have adhd so that entire time is not spent fully working and being present. Some days are tough but I have accepted I don’t love J2 so I’m gonna ride it out a few more months…sniffing some downsizing coming there.
J1: $115k 35 hr/wk, 31 pto + rollover + 14 holidays/yr. J2: $60k 20/wk. Both full remote and minimal meetings. Both higher ed programming. I also have about 20 small business clients who hire me for doing occasional WordPress and Shopify development and support. That number varies by year but it’s never paid like picking up a J2, which I’ve done a few times over the past 10 years.
$255K from 2 Js. One is a full time that pays $115K plus benefits, PTO etc. And the second J is a contract that pays $140K with no benefits. Been at my first J for 5 years and 1.5 years at second J
180k. 8 hours a day. Full time job with meetings and several part time jobs with no meetings. I do the work of the part time jobs at my desk for my full time job.
325k from 2 jobs. J1 175k J2 150k. Work 35-40hrs. J2 has a lot of meetings but am on multiple teams so so can easily miss them and have it not be an issue. I am working on J3 as I would like to get to 450-500k.
$133k J1. About to get a J2 making $137k, TC $270. Weekend side gig bringing in $~500/day, for an additional hypothetical $52k annually, but it’s an outdoor vendor stand that is dependent on the weather. In LA, so it shouldn’t be too bad, maybe the winter months will be a little slower but I’d imagine I’ll still make a few hundred a day.
How the fuck are you guys finding jobs without four or six hours of fucking meetings everyday? I just want one J1 where I can simply work.
If you have enough experience and influence, you can tell the team to have less meetings, people generally don’t like meetings anyway and would listen to you.
It’s tough. I feel I was recently ambushed on a J3 where I was told there would be a ton of work-life balance and “surprise,” I already have 3 hours of meetings a day.
Finding out that people really spend 4 hours a day on meeting for the amount of pay they say is really eye opening as to the amount of money companies pay just for meetings.
My J1 has tons of meetings I’m just never expected to talk on them so it works out.
If you didn't have meetings when would you get any work done? I don't understand. If I didn't have meetings I wouldn't turn on the computer.
I'm a PM for a product provider with multiple customers at the same time, often my days look like 6-7hours of meetings...
J1 = $120k Datacenter engineer
No way you have a good work life balance being a Network Engineer x2
What certifications do you have?
I thought datacenter engineer is someone who often needs to go there and deal with L1 stuff
J1: 177500 + equity J2: 170500 + equity
This shit is way harder than people say, probably because most of the folks on this sub aren’t even doing it… at least not long term.
It’s hard as fuck brother. Keep it up
I know what you mean
You’re also making a significant saving on vehicle expenses by not driving as much, and you’re writing off a cut of your utilities to run a home office.
You need to start outsourcing tasks if you haven’t yet! Good job!
I'm only at around $75K/yr on 3 jobs, though I'm living in a third world country. Plus my wife managed to build 3 businesses generating income of almost that level. Will inject more capital to increase sales and capacity.
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I’m in contract management and I get $116,000 on J1 and $105,000 on J2 so a total of $221,000/yr. I should add that I’m a woman with children since I don’t see many women on here.
That’s awesome! I like that you added the last sentence. Representation is motivating. how is contract management? What do you do in that position?
Hello sis! 💪 I am also a woman with little kids
Woman here 🥰 get that bag girl!
I m a woman also, my kids are older now (and so am I). I'm a Sox-Internal control manger in both Js. J1 is $131+$12K and J2 is $115+15%. TC is $275,000/ year.
Are you in the US? Congratulations on your two jobs!
Woman here with a whole crew of kids. Keep it up! 💪
I am also a woman and now the bread winner. I also work 50% less than my husband and I bring in 65% of our total income.
I’m a woman as well. No kids
Hey! I’m in contract management too and have been afraid of pursuing OE because of the field we’re in. I’m also a mama too! Mind if I DM you a couple of questions?
410k, twenty-something female SWE. J1: 180k, full time series B startup. J2: 170k, contract large corporation. J3: 60k, freelance part time gig that keeps giving me more hours.
What type of jobs if I may ask?
J1- $160 J2- $150 J3- $175K plus bonuses and commission.
good rig right here, well done
May I ask what industry? Like are those all dev jobs?
Nice!
I make 40 in J1 and 20 in J2…ouch
Gotta start somewhere!
Regardless of how much you make. I honestly admire that you even have jobs that you can OE with and manage at the same time! We see most of the people in the sub that already OE. Not all the people lurking that haven’t been able to do it successfully or do it at all! This is only the beginning! Always look for the next best paying! You got this!
Nothing wrong with that. It's 50% more than you WERE making!
not ouch but visualize it, hold it in your mind, and say "I am gonna get that", let the fire within you burn
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I'm finding it hard to OE in finance. How do you do it?
Tryna get into this from accounting the month ends are semi killing me lol.
I’m in accounting too! 80k for two jobs.
156k, j1: 64k, takes about an hour to 2 of work per day never really talk to anyone there except a work buddy occasionally - j2: 92k newer ft. Probably pretty low compared to some of you all on here. Cheers!
What are your roles?
😮💨 I have to get my life together J1 53k, J2 65K…. Here I was thinking I was doing something 😂😂 I need to break into tech. I’m in Management. One finance, other CS 🙃 118k isn’t too bad starting out
If you’re under 30yo you’re doing awesome!!! Keep it up!!
Never stop interviewing.
I'm baby comp compared to most people here but I make $125k between two jobs. One job is a mid level cog analyst at a very very very large insurance company which is maybe the most inefficient place I've ever worked at. 3 hours of work a day maximum. 10% bonus at the end of the year though.
I'm guessing F****ity? Are they fully remote still?
$775k. 4 jobs
uncle sam is gonna love u come tax season...
What role?
Amazing!!!
J1- $58k J2- $62k Both are task based. I actually have been in meetings at the same time. But I’m known for being quiet so I just don’t talk. J2 is a short contract so I’m going to start looking for another
J1 : $45/hr j2: $50/hr
so how many hours do you bill, per hour?
Two jobs, ~125k/y in latin america, which is a lot. I am a few months away to buy my first home in cash
Isn't mortgaging more efficient? Because instead of buying 1 house in cash you can technically buy 5 houses on mortgages and rent them out or flip them and make more money?
$178k + $174k + $125k, J1-J3
What titles do you have?? I’m in data analytics as well but trying to be one my footing
how many employees per company?
J1: 87k J2: 80k
title?
J1 180k
Definitely not a brag haha, 110K~ (program manager), 24k~ (social media manager, retainer contract), 20k~ (random front end web dev projects and contracts).
How's the social media manager one? What kind of tasks. Easy or tough?
Do u feel like u undervalue ur time by having 2 lower paying jobs that pay so much less than one (combined even)?
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What HR roles are you in?
Also interested in what roles you have. Just quit my J3 that was an HR job and the meetings were fucking insane
120k from a single job. Planning on going J2, maybe even low effort J3 next month. Scared as fuck ngl, it's been like a year now since I first started "planning" it all.
$116k from 2 jobs and a side hustle
J1: $260k VP
Holy crap. Pairing VP level gigs in OE is some next level nastiness
Whoa. What line of work?
TC: $300,000 base across three jobs; 2 are W2 sales base + comm., one is a consultant role I run through my own company. Expected total commission/bonus to be $25k min., $45k max.
That's awesome, good for you and your wife! I can only imagine how huge of a help it is going OE route while starting a new family. Best of luck to you both!
For any of you who need a remote assistant let me know!
I think I’m at like $280k ish with two jobs? Ones a contract with no pto and the other has an annual bonus so it will fluctuate a bit. I’m trying to talk myself out of quitting j2 everyday for the last two weeks but I’m still hanging on.
You're making decent money. Why do you want to quit j2?
Currently J1 95k J2 72k, TC $167k.
funny how the lower paying Js are always the cushiest ones, third time today i've seen this
What type of job is J2? Sounds like a sweet set up
What kinds of jobs are these? That only is crazy!
2 roles, TC: $233,000 base
I'm a PM in tech too, may I ask how you moved up/what certifications you would suggest?
Is this program manager, project manager or product manager?
This is what I’m looking for. Different time zones? How is your overall meeting load?
2Js, 8 hours total - $52k
What the fuck am I doing with my life?
Family with 3 kids and shitty high taxes.
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Probably VHCOL
It’s expensive to live on the coast
Not even close to Lambo money. Even if you’re single you gonna lose like 30% to taxes right off the bat and then housing and retirement accounts gonna eat even more and you’ll be left with surprisingly less than you think. Throw a family into the mix and $230k ain’t shit.
Thats not as much money as you’d think. Sure single, maybeee but even then. 230k is only like 170k after taxes. 170k for 5 years is to retire is nowhere near enough my dude. You still have expenses so housing 4k a month, car $600-700, food and entertainment. Shit adds up quickly. Now throw in a family and its basically nothing to retire.
Taxes
Two jobs. TC is 250k
4J. 730K
I think 250K is kinda average out from total 2 jobs within 8-12 hours window seems an ideal results. Of course, the numbers may vary with the no. of jobs and pay rates.
240k total. Two jobs. 100% remote on both. 1 job I could do with my toes. The other is killing me but I keep it to 40-45hrs a week. Always looking for a j3!
killing u how so?
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how so? are u slipping on deliverables?
J1- 60k a year J2- 60k a year
what kind of work?
$593k CAD base+bonus, only 2 Js.
This looks awesome! I'm in the same domain but less compensation. The threshold almost all the companies say is 150K CAD per job. Are you doing both FTE or contract?
Are you quite senior? That’s a lot of base
Between 2j's: $430k base, $20k bonus, + decent equity from J1
Damn. I’m 417k with 4 Js. 2 employee and 2 long term contact
320k. J1 I’m a director of marketing, j2 I’m an account executive in tech. I work more hours than I wished and managing conflicting meetings gets tough at times.
J1 125000 J2 155000 TC 280k
keep it running for as long as u can brother.
180k. 8 hours a day. Full time job with meetings and several part time jobs with no meetings. I do the work of the part time jobs at my desk for my full time job.
J1 - Software Engineering Mgmt - 200k + equity
J1: $90k, J2: $95k for $185k total both in digital design field. J2 team is mostly based on the other side of the world so they are all done for the day right after a short daily call i have in the morning which is before I even start J1.
Posting for my husband.
SWE from Poland here. I currently make 50k pln a month in my 2 Js, which is around $10500. May not seem like a lot but it gets me and my family a decent standard of living and I can save a ton (>50%).
~600k base. I work 3 devops jobs. They all give out stock and bonuses. I work 12-16 hrs a day. Pretty exhausting but the money is nice
J1 - 152K Systems Engineer
Anything between $300 and $450K
J1: 95K j2: 115 J3: 120 Total 330K or 360 after bonuses. 17K a month after taxes, insurance, 401K.
$800M. Just like everyone else who's not provided an ounce of validation, I'm not providing any proof for this claim.
https://imgur.com/MlqshDQ
J1: 92k J2: 130k
swe?
J1: 150k + bonus (salary), J2: 85k (contract consulting, ~15 hrs/wk)
$205k TC - 1 FT job and 1 PT job - spend roughly 30 hours per week and use the spare time to hang with my pup :) been so great to have the extra income! Love the community
J1: 85k + bonus + ESP + 401k J2: 100k bonus + ESP + 401k
J1: 450k faang sr swe lost 50k rsu this year J2: 250k tech swe J3: 200k swe
J1: $7/hr J2: Paid with experience
Was 455k/yr(j1 - 70k, j2-50k, j3-155k, j4-180k) not too long ago but now 160k(j1 - 110k, j2 - 50k) . All are full-stack dev roles except for my J2 which is teaching.
$37,000 a year for J1 excellent benefits, full time job but working 5 hrs max a week and 99% remote.
Not in the USA so
J1 - $155k J2 - $170k
Both jobs are roughly equal
355k
J1+J2+j3= $460k and I also have 6 clients that I work on hourly through my LLC = $5k-$10k a month
J1 - $230K + $490K in Equity (7rs on the job) - Director of Product Design
Two Js, Total Comp roughly $235K.
J1 - 200k J2 - 145k J3 - 140k J4 - 200k CAD J5 - 140k CAD
This is insane! Would you mind sharing the details how you manage and timings etc?
$185k and I still feel like it’s nothing 🥲 I’m thankful that both companies aren’t meeting heavy at all. I probably talk to my bosses once a week. Otherwise it’s quick notes here and there.
$112k from 2 jobs. J1 - $50k salary J2 -$62k/yr hourly employee Initially I was going to quit J1 after I used my PTO since I knew they wouldn’t pay out. Decided I would just do both to see if it was possible. 3 months in and thrilled that I didn’t play it safe and quit J1 when I accepted offer for J2. Some changes happening at J1 so just hoping I can stick it out at least until EOY and pay off some debts.
Usually around 200k per month right now.
J1 200k w bonus J2 140k + bonus + equity TC 380k
Im lucky if i even make $700 a paycheck. (Disclaimer I only work one job, am a student, and my work week depends entirely upon the amount of events we have booked per week.)
For those in tech, your jobs don't flag you for doing this and having a conflict of interest for ur 2nd job? I work at one of the Big 4 consulting firms, and I honestly would love to do this to pay off student loans. But I can't, that's a big no no unless they approve.
You don’t ask anyone.
J1 - 75k, J2 - 85k, J3 - $30 per hr,
J1 $236k J2 $150k J3 $66k (6mos gig)…and I will be leaving at 6 mos
Near $240k 3Js - mid level roles. J3 is the smallest (w2 contract). But will flip in 6 months and I imagine probably an extra $20k then.
J1: $110k + equity + bonus
$310k + $20k bonus + avg equity from J1
355k TC - 2 jobs. Looking to pull in a third
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What industry are you in?
$175k TC with 2 jobs plus $10k-ish bonus at J2. Total about 9-10 hours per day but I have adhd so that entire time is not spent fully working and being present. Some days are tough but I have accepted I don’t love J2 so I’m gonna ride it out a few more months…sniffing some downsizing coming there.
Just got a J2 but haven't started yet. Both combined should be 186K. Might get laid off from J1 soon enough though so hopefully I get redeployed.
170k from 2 J’s, same pay. Typical 8-5 bs. :)
J1: $115k 35 hr/wk, 31 pto + rollover + 14 holidays/yr. J2: $60k 20/wk. Both full remote and minimal meetings. Both higher ed programming. I also have about 20 small business clients who hire me for doing occasional WordPress and Shopify development and support. That number varies by year but it’s never paid like picking up a J2, which I’ve done a few times over the past 10 years.
90k from J1 85k from J2. Work as a paralegal. Had a J3 but just quit it at 60k, pay was shit and averaged 2.5-3.5 hrs of meetings per day.
J1:165k base j2: 120k base. It ebbs and flows, some days 5 hours total, other days 10.
~230k, 2J, genuinely work less than 1 hour a day on average, but get several short phone calls sporadically thru the day from both.
What do you do?
$255K from 2 Js. One is a full time that pays $115K plus benefits, PTO etc. And the second J is a contract that pays $140K with no benefits. Been at my first J for 5 years and 1.5 years at second J
$220k, 2 Js. Two 15 min meetings a day. Work 5 hrs total everyday
175k from 2 jobs planning on adding J3 next year
be careful what u wish for cause u might get it:)
Technical writer here
180k. 8 hours a day. Full time job with meetings and several part time jobs with no meetings. I do the work of the part time jobs at my desk for my full time job.
Senior SWE
3Js, 8-10 hrs/day, no micromanagers. $353,000 base $23,000 bonus, $40,000 annual equity, Long-term options, and lots of perks.
As a Sr. developer in a third world country seeing this makes me extremely jealous. I barely make 40k between 2Js
5J - 860K total salaries, plus RSU , ESPS etc probably around 950K
if you want a poll of your question, its here, i asked the same question few months back
325k from 2 jobs. J1 175k J2 150k. Work 35-40hrs. J2 has a lot of meetings but am on multiple teams so so can easily miss them and have it not be an issue. I am working on J3 as I would like to get to 450-500k.
$133k J1. About to get a J2 making $137k, TC $270. Weekend side gig bringing in $~500/day, for an additional hypothetical $52k annually, but it’s an outdoor vendor stand that is dependent on the weather. In LA, so it shouldn’t be too bad, maybe the winter months will be a little slower but I’d imagine I’ll still make a few hundred a day.
J1 - 109k + bonuses, J2 - 48k Between 20 and 25 total hours a week of actual work J3s come and go, just short-term projects
How do you people find contract jobs?
J1: 90K, J2: 90K, J3: 70K.