I thought at one point we would eventually fight the team she used to earn her champion rank, but she only uses the same team she made along our journey.
She also was admonished by the Prof just prior to the opening battle because she was planning on using her Champion Rank team, not the starter she’d just gotten. I thought it was a nice idea to have her be experienced instead of wet behind the ears
The entire time I was waiting for that Paldean Tauros from the first cutscene to come out and stomp my ass back to the stone age but it didn't happen. I even brought my own :(((
The entire time I thought ahe was going to use a Tauros on the final fight since she had one in the opening video. Dunno why I was kinda bummed that she didn't
give her & geeta (all champion ranked trainers if they add more) items and a well EV trained team of level 100s for post game battles (if you're not going to clamp all pokemon to level 50 for that kind of thing)
I was so annoyed when I got to the section of the postgame where you meet her on the field to talk about other students not wanting to battle her, and then she asks if you want to battle…
Nemona could have been the Battle Tower replacement, except instead of fighting a bunch of trainers in a facility, you duke it out with her in the schoolyard as she tries different strats for singles and doubles. Then you win LP instead of BP because the League recognizes your battles as a learning opportunity for the other students.
She’s could always be the final trainer in the battle tower having a different team with different move sets, items, and abilities if possible because she’s trying out different strategies for every and any team.
How about this: you can battle Nemona once a day, but you have to track her down. You can find a hint on her dorm room door, like, “out looking for Donphan!” or similar.
That kind of reminds me of the side quest with the Xtransceiver in BW2. It was fun getting calls from a phone pal. That would be awesome to recreate that in a newer game!
When you do her side quest after the main story and she's asks if you want to have a practice match, you agree and then the screen goes black and it's suddenly after the match... what... Why? Isn't the whole point of her character that you fight her over and over? Why cut out one more battle?
She can call you every 15 minutes on the Rotom Phone to ask about a battle. You can decline it, but she'll keep calling until you agree to a battle and then won't call until the next day.
Once you're a champion and have proven yourself her equal, she shouldve had lvl 100s, 5-6 IV, EV trained, Egg move, HA Pokemon. I want a Cynthia level battle every rematch from her. Really sell that no one was on her level until you showed up.
I miss the cellphone. And not the version from newer gens that just shows when trainers are available for a rematch, I miss the one from Johto! Where you could ask for some trainers number, and some would give you items, specifically call you for a rematch, or sometimes just shoot the shit. That was so fun.
Would be neat if she could be battled once per day for some reward items and she regularly switches up her team randomly each time they reset the battle. She's said to be already an experienced trainer, after all.
Right. It’s such a downgrade from past games even. I’d rather find my rival in some town and get to battle them daily rather than go through a whole tournament just for a chance to battle them, all while everyone’s great battle themes are overwritten. Platinum did rematches the best imo.
Black and White 2 giving us the world tournament was my favourite kind of rematch. I know it's not quite the same, but god it was fun and the soundtrack was incredible.
How funny would it be if Arven managed to get better than her and meet you in the finals? Tbh, she’d probably have a heart attack at the excitement of two rivals.
We need a nemona everywhere feature like in yakuza. Nemona will randomly be in bins and on buildings waiting to ambush. Replacing forced trainer battles.
She purposely picked the one weak to you so it would be a better battling experience for you. Her whole goal is to get you hooked on battles like her so she has someone that can battle at her level eventually. That means letting you know about type weaknesses by picking the one you are strong against. Which turns around later on when the starter she picked is actually super effective against yours with the secondary typing.
This is what I want too! All she wants is to battle people and have someone who is on her level she can fight, she wants to fight right away even after losing... let me do that!!!
Here’s an idea: when you beat nemona you can pick one of your Pokémon to get mirrored into her team. Then if you connect online, you can challenge Nemona who has a random team from 6 people who have beat her.
She says that she made a new team to counter every gym leader but she uses the same team to fight you throughout the entire game, including after you become the champion and when she fights you in the Ace Tournament.
They could/should have done a lot of things different. It would’ve been cool to see Nemona battling random people randomly throughout the region, and see her new teams progression when you randomly see her
I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that she is scripted in the finals on the FIRST REMATCH only. Like, not the original storyline one, but the first time you ask for a rematch, as in the second tour you ever do at all.
Hmmm? Tried rematching elite 4 and couldn't also searched for info and it's said everywhere that you can't rematch elite 4/champion I'm missing something?
Question if anyone knows…at some point can you rechallenge the elite four? Every time I try, the dude standing there just gives me generic dialogue and that’s it.
Lots of people should. The ace trainers with the black speech bubble def should. We gotta phone but no Contacts. Didn’t original gold and silver even have that feature ?
One thing I’d love for games to do with bosses (and especially post-game rematches) is to give the boss 3 or 4 different teams, and it’s random each time you face them, so you can’t really plan ahead.
She's hands down the most annoying rival in the series. She just follow you around pretending to be a trainer on your level and even following the same lessons as you even if she's older than you and a much more experienced trainer. Her character is credible as flying donkeys and with he flattest characterization of the game. The less encounters with her the better.
Generally if you want to cultivate interest in something on someone else you don't obliterate them with your full power. Its fine not to like her but at least understand her properly and what she's trying to do (which worked for me honestly i enjoy battling her)
When she said she’d be watching me since we moved in, that was enough for me. Get away from me, you creep. The fact that people not only like her, but say she’s one of the best rivals EVER is fucking baffling to say the least. She’s the worst IMO. Hau and Trace are annoying, but otherwise inoffensive. Nemona’s annoying AND a stalker. Leave me the fuck alone.
Not to mention that despite the battle royale being her damn idea, she seemingly NEVER TAKES PART. I’ve done it 15 times and I’ve not seen her once. She just hides in her dorm room. Refusing to battle.
I swear, refights are like the easiest thing to do and we have yet to get a pokemon game where you can fight all gym leaders and rivals again and again. Atleast Sword / Shield has this amazing tournament with a little tree so you can see who is in the tournament and all. They even let you choose one person to join the tournament, before the others are random generated. The Academy battle is so fucking bad, you have no idea how is participating, the fights are just back to back (I love the waiting room with the hype music in gen 8), heal you and your opponents are a weird mix of teachers and THE ELITE FOUR THAT I CAN'T REFIGHT NORMALLY. WHAT THE FUCK?! And I think Arven, penny and nemona are part of the tournament as well? I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T SEE WHO IS PART OF IT
ALSO, she isn't even guaranteed to appear in the tournaments even tho after the first one she says she's competing. This means she's losing to other people.
I wouldn't say it's better than the battle royal considering she's in the battle royal so just scale everyone there lmao. I agree we should be able to rematch her since she's kinda the champion.
I feel like they could work this even more into the Academy Ace Tournament. Post game, we're able to talk to each of our friends in their dorm rooms. Each faculty member can also be put in a different part of the school building once you've completed your bond with them, Hassel in the art room, Dendra in the schoolyard, etc. Geeta can be standing in the entrance hall post game. If you talk to a student or faculty member after completing their bond, you can go up to them and ask them if they could join the next Academy Ace Tournament. The first 4 people you ask will always agree, and you will fight them in that order. Asking any more people will result in them mentioning that either they're too busy right now or they think that registrations are full at the moment. If you ask 3 or less people, it fills the remaining slots with random battlers.
Nemona was annoying at first for battle battle battle mentality, but by the end of the game I liked her, she was fun and ultimately got me excited to battle.
You can face her again in the tournament, but realistically, she has to do student council stuff guys. She can't battle her freshman crush ALL the time.
Damn that is disappointing. I'm halfway through my gym badges and it is always fun fighting her. I'm competitive as hell so her wanting to fight and beat me is fun as fuck. Im as addicted as her in battling, Ive been thinking she's awesome and hoping for rematch stuff. Hell I've ended up overleveled and I still run around an entire zone finding any trainers I can find who I know are probably not worth the time but they gotta get this smoke. I can't believe the battle crazy rival we can't rematch whenever we want? I was hoping for a rematch mechanic of some kind with her post game like once or twice a day with pokemon that level to your highest level pokemon or something.
In the dlc give her lvl 100, full competitive sets. Really anyone champion rank, but at least make Nemona into a RED tier opponent. Full ev's, swap mons, good items. I like the idea of giving her other teams as well. Like I wanna struggle with my lvl 100 in game mons.
One of my favourite Pokémon YouTubers made a video about a crazy postgame superboss encounter with Nemona, specifically with the following roster, at level 85, with maxed IVs and their respective signature moves:
Battle Tower but it’s just Nemona with like 50 different teams
Each time she comes out with a new shoddy disguise.
Lol. With the amount of times I had to battle her even without my consent, it is a deserved fate.
I could realistically see them bringing back Restricted Sparring with just her as the opponent, so she'd have ready to go teams in every type.
It’s be the David Pumpkins sketch but with Nemona
That would’ve been the best idea
I'd love this so much.
That would actually be awesome.
I wouldn’t be mad at this
Nemo a the theory-crafter. "That didn't work, I'll try something different next time"
I thought at one point we would eventually fight the team she used to earn her champion rank, but she only uses the same team she made along our journey.
I always thought they should have gone all the way:
Instead of a Battle tower, Battle tree, or whatever. It should just be Battle Nemona.
She also was admonished by the Prof just prior to the opening battle because she was planning on using her Champion Rank team, not the starter she’d just gotten. I thought it was a nice idea to have her be experienced instead of wet behind the ears
Would love to see her original champion team, and a new team with end game 'mons part of the pool of options.
The entire time I was waiting for that Paldean Tauros from the first cutscene to come out and stomp my ass back to the stone age but it didn't happen. I even brought my own :(((
Maybe in the DLC?
The entire time I thought ahe was going to use a Tauros on the final fight since she had one in the opening video. Dunno why I was kinda bummed that she didn't
I spent the whole game weirdly hyped to fight a tauros as her ace cause she used one in the game's opening and she never even uses one rip
give her & geeta (all champion ranked trainers if they add more) items and a well EV trained team of level 100s for post game battles (if you're not going to clamp all pokemon to level 50 for that kind of thing)
I was so annoyed when I got to the section of the postgame where you meet her on the field to talk about other students not wanting to battle her, and then she asks if you want to battle…
Ace competition rematches was a catastrophic mechanic yeah lmao
Because the kind of battling that took place isn't suitable for a rated E vidya game
Where do you find her in the post game where it gives you that interaction?
I at LEAST think she should be able to appear as an NPC in Tera raid battles, like Peonia could in the Crown Tundra.
I think Raid battles should be Arven
Happy cake day!
Bbbbbbut Well-made AI? No way.
Nemona could have been the Battle Tower replacement, except instead of fighting a bunch of trainers in a facility, you duke it out with her in the schoolyard as she tries different strats for singles and doubles. Then you win LP instead of BP because the League recognizes your battles as a learning opportunity for the other students.
Amazing idea
Gamefreak would never carry out an idea this good. It’s against their core philosophy
She’s could always be the final trainer in the battle tower having a different team with different move sets, items, and abilities if possible because she’s trying out different strategies for every and any team.
How about this: you can battle Nemona once a day, but you have to track her down. You can find a hint on her dorm room door, like, “out looking for Donphan!” or similar.
Alternatively, you can battle Nemona once a day but she tracks you down.
That kind of reminds me of the side quest with the Xtransceiver in BW2. It was fun getting calls from a phone pal. That would be awesome to recreate that in a newer game!
That’s a fantastic idea! Encourages exploration and can provide motivation for encountering more mon.
And the hint somehow always leads to her hiding in the closest bush behind you
When you do her side quest after the main story and she's asks if you want to have a practice match, you agree and then the screen goes black and it's suddenly after the match... what... Why? Isn't the whole point of her character that you fight her over and over? Why cut out one more battle?
Because you battle her for hours according to the cutscene.
wtf whats her side quest? and/or how do you start it?
That pissed me off so much
I wanna see her fight with her old team.
I think the Orthworm and Dundunsparce she adds to her team for the Champion battle are the ones she used from her old team
I would also like it if she had a large list of possible Pokemon teams and it would randomly select one every time you battled her.
She can call you every 15 minutes on the Rotom Phone to ask about a battle. You can decline it, but she'll keep calling until you agree to a battle and then won't call until the next day.
"Niko! Let's go battling!"
I like this idea.
Once you're a champion and have proven yourself her equal, she shouldve had lvl 100s, 5-6 IV, EV trained, Egg move, HA Pokemon. I want a Cynthia level battle every rematch from her. Really sell that no one was on her level until you showed up.
I miss the cellphone. And not the version from newer gens that just shows when trainers are available for a rematch, I miss the one from Johto! Where you could ask for some trainers number, and some would give you items, specifically call you for a rematch, or sometimes just shoot the shit. That was so fun.
For me it was picknicker Gina just before goldenrod
I just despised how they would call randomly so every time I replay Johto I reject every request for numbers and feel like a jerk
Would be neat if she could be battled once per day for some reward items and she regularly switches up her team randomly each time they reset the battle. She's said to be already an experienced trainer, after all.
I want a Nemona Everywhere system in the post game.
Scarlet and Violet battle tower but its only Nemona
Right. It’s such a downgrade from past games even. I’d rather find my rival in some town and get to battle them daily rather than go through a whole tournament just for a chance to battle them, all while everyone’s great battle themes are overwritten. Platinum did rematches the best imo.
Black and White 2 giving us the world tournament was my favourite kind of rematch. I know it's not quite the same, but god it was fun and the soundtrack was incredible.
It's such a weird decision, considering that even as early into the series as RZE you could challenge your rival once a day.
How funny would it be if Arven managed to get better than her and meet you in the finals? Tbh, she’d probably have a heart attack at the excitement of two rivals.
She literally has a battle arena at her house. Your first battle was there, you should be able to endgame battle her backyard
did Nemona type this?
🤣
Just make nemona the battle tower, you just fight her over and over again with different teams
We need a nemona everywhere feature like in yakuza. Nemona will randomly be in bins and on buildings waiting to ambush. Replacing forced trainer battles.
They should have her go Yandere and just be waiting at every pokecenter
Or forcefully "interveining" occasionally if you try to fight random trainers.
She's a far superior rival then the last 2
She purposely picked the one weak to you so it would be a better battling experience for you. Her whole goal is to get you hooked on battles like her so she has someone that can battle at her level eventually. That means letting you know about type weaknesses by picking the one you are strong against. Which turns around later on when the starter she picked is actually super effective against yours with the secondary typing.
Only applies if you pick the duck that wrecks fuecoco but by choosing plant or fire she has that secondary typing to potentially one-shot you
Ya to be honest she's better because she's not a Rival.
Atleast shes intentionally going easy on you
I think you’ve missed that she does that on purpose.
Whoa whoa whoa we need them to have something for the DLC
DLC: Nemona's Literature Club
This is what I want too! All she wants is to battle people and have someone who is on her level she can fight, she wants to fight right away even after losing... let me do that!!!
They’re holding back for the payed DLC 😭
What if it's worse than that?
Here’s an idea: when you beat nemona you can pick one of your Pokémon to get mirrored into her team. Then if you connect online, you can challenge Nemona who has a random team from 6 people who have beat her.
She says that she made a new team to counter every gym leader but she uses the same team to fight you throughout the entire game, including after you become the champion and when she fights you in the Ace Tournament.
Yeah that's an oversight for sure
I miss in Gold/Silver when trainers would check in regularly for rematches.
They’re going to keep the ability to rematch her for the DLC… I wanna /s this but I feel like it’s something Gamefreak would do.
It bugs me how the whole game she wants to battle us once we get the legends, and then just doesn’t
They could/should have done a lot of things different. It would’ve been cool to see Nemona battling random people randomly throughout the region, and see her new teams progression when you randomly see her
I'll never understand why they made Nemona unable to be challenged daily, but friggin Marnie can. Like, what?!
i'm glad we all agree nemona is a great rival and big sister
She does.
She's only a possible battle in the tournament, I've had runs where she never shows up
I've done the academy ace tournament several times now and she never shows up :(
I could be wrong, but I have a feeling that she is scripted in the finals on the FIRST REMATCH only. Like, not the original storyline one, but the first time you ask for a rematch, as in the second tour you ever do at all.
Hmmm? Tried rematching elite 4 and couldn't also searched for info and it's said everywhere that you can't rematch elite 4/champion I'm missing something?
i think some of that post content is either gonna be in a free update or in a dlc
Free update? In your dreams. DLC? There's a good chance it will be
Still wish they would implement a hard mode for these Pokémon games. Not even the Challenge Mode on BW was good enough.
Question if anyone knows…at some point can you rechallenge the elite four? Every time I try, the dude standing there just gives me generic dialogue and that’s it.
give her 4 boxes of lv.100 max iv ev trained competitive pokemon randomized every battle and then we're talking
I’d love it if she just became a battle tower type AI.
This game actually need more Pokémon Battles IMO.
This amongst other things should have definitely been in the game. Ppl prob said it already, but that's called "dlc" these dark and lazy days.
It would be hilarious if there's a 1/256 or some odd chance of her pulling out a lv100 pseudo-legendary filled team.
and the gym leaders and the elite 4
Lots of missed opportunities in the game. I'm still having a great time, ngl, but it could have been the best.
Battle Call 😏
GF: makes a rival character obsessed with battles
Lots of people should. The ace trainers with the black speech bubble def should. We gotta phone but no Contacts. Didn’t original gold and silver even have that feature ?
One thing I’d love for games to do with bosses (and especially post-game rematches) is to give the boss 3 or 4 different teams, and it’s random each time you face them, so you can’t really plan ahead.
She can stilln be a stronger rival in the DLC. But yea, it's weird that she's just stopped challenging.
Untold story, she becomes a celebrity and no longer has time for you
Pffffft, she would give up her celeb role before
I used to battle Marnie once a day in Sword and Shield. I was fun to have something to give me a reason to boot up the game once a day
Well you see, that’s a cool feature that would require time and effort to implement. Gamefreak doesn’t do that.
You can battle the team star leaders once a day I believe. That’s five battle’s a day at almost Nemona’s level.
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You can keep fighting her in the ace tourney
Some of them really don't deserve their place in that tournament.
Endgame content? Whats that?
She's hands down the most annoying rival in the series. She just follow you around pretending to be a trainer on your level and even following the same lessons as you even if she's older than you and a much more experienced trainer. Her character is credible as flying donkeys and with he flattest characterization of the game. The less encounters with her the better.
Generally if you want to cultivate interest in something on someone else you don't obliterate them with your full power. Its fine not to like her but at least understand her properly and what she's trying to do (which worked for me honestly i enjoy battling her)
When she said she’d be watching me since we moved in, that was enough for me. Get away from me, you creep. The fact that people not only like her, but say she’s one of the best rivals EVER is fucking baffling to say the least. She’s the worst IMO. Hau and Trace are annoying, but otherwise inoffensive. Nemona’s annoying AND a stalker. Leave me the fuck alone.
this should be spoiler....
Maybe in the dlc?
Should the gym leaders be able to rematch more than once too?
I have been through Academy Ace tournament 3 times and not seen her once. I thought she'd be in there instead of Geeta but nope.
Granted but you also have to fight Penny and Arven at the same time back to back.
She's probably just an NPC until the DLC comes out, I'm sure they'll do more with her character then
That’s a great idea, they should crank her whole team to 100 (or a new team) with maxed stats to fight on repeat. No reason not to have it
Not to mention that despite the battle royale being her damn idea, she seemingly NEVER TAKES PART. I’ve done it 15 times and I’ve not seen her once. She just hides in her dorm room. Refusing to battle.
Yo man you gotta take a breath with your typing and use some punctuation.
I swear, refights are like the easiest thing to do and we have yet to get a pokemon game where you can fight all gym leaders and rivals again and again. Atleast Sword / Shield has this amazing tournament with a little tree so you can see who is in the tournament and all. They even let you choose one person to join the tournament, before the others are random generated. The Academy battle is so fucking bad, you have no idea how is participating, the fights are just back to back (I love the waiting room with the hype music in gen 8), heal you and your opponents are a weird mix of teachers and THE ELITE FOUR THAT I CAN'T REFIGHT NORMALLY. WHAT THE FUCK?! And I think Arven, penny and nemona are part of the tournament as well? I DON'T KNOW, I DON'T SEE WHO IS PART OF IT
I also think the schoolyard is 100x times cooler arena than the middle of the city
HG/SS and B2/W2.
She essentially is
She is, kinda. Through the tournament.
It would be hilarious that her best team would be full of lvl 100 mons
Still open?
How in the world isn't scale Level Creep not an option!
I think that is a perfect suggestion but,pokemon scarlet and violet have already been released so I doubt it will update again besides the new dlc
Oh does the Academy Ace Tournament not get any higher?
ALSO, she isn't even guaranteed to appear in the tournaments even tho after the first one she says she's competing. This means she's losing to other people.
Even just have her up for a rematch once a day like the team star leaders are.
Yeah agreed
It should be like Cheren in black and white and immediately after beating her there should be one of those
Seriously! I've replayed the ace tournament like 4 times in the hopes of MAYBE battling her and I still haven't gotten to.
I wouldn't say it's better than the battle royal considering she's in the battle royal so just scale everyone there lmao. I agree we should be able to rematch her since she's kinda the champion.
I want to fight Nemona's champion team! I'm very curious about it.
I feel like they could work this even more into the Academy Ace Tournament. Post game, we're able to talk to each of our friends in their dorm rooms. Each faculty member can also be put in a different part of the school building once you've completed your bond with them, Hassel in the art room, Dendra in the schoolyard, etc. Geeta can be standing in the entrance hall post game. If you talk to a student or faculty member after completing their bond, you can go up to them and ask them if they could join the next Academy Ace Tournament. The first 4 people you ask will always agree, and you will fight them in that order. Asking any more people will result in them mentioning that either they're too busy right now or they think that registrations are full at the moment. If you ask 3 or less people, it fills the remaining slots with random battlers.
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I wish she added one of the paradox Pokemon to her team
YES, THIS PLEASE
Wtf? X/Y did this with daily rematches with Serena/Calem even if they aren't strong. Missed opportunity
I think this will be in the DLC
I wish there were more entrants in the post game tournament. Why not include all the former Team Star leaders, gym leaders, and Elite Four?
Pokémon Peral having “Red” you could fight everyday was dope
Nemona was annoying at first for battle battle battle mentality, but by the end of the game I liked her, she was fun and ultimately got me excited to battle.
Maybe not anytime, but we should be able to battle her every Monday and Wednesday at the very least
She's only interested in fresh, inexperienced children?
I imagine that will be a DLC thing. Shame it’s not in atmo tho
She is lol. Also academy battle is an amazing way to close out the game are you mad?
yyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeesssssss
She's too busy growing "mint" in her dorm room
Battle Tower, Battle Chateau, Battle Frontier? Nah.
You can face her again in the tournament, but realistically, she has to do student council stuff guys. She can't battle her freshman crush ALL the time.
Free use Nemona? I could get behind that
I am currently SO mad about this.
Damn that is disappointing. I'm halfway through my gym badges and it is always fun fighting her. I'm competitive as hell so her wanting to fight and beat me is fun as fuck. Im as addicted as her in battling, Ive been thinking she's awesome and hoping for rematch stuff. Hell I've ended up overleveled and I still run around an entire zone finding any trainers I can find who I know are probably not worth the time but they gotta get this smoke. I can't believe the battle crazy rival we can't rematch whenever we want? I was hoping for a rematch mechanic of some kind with her post game like once or twice a day with pokemon that level to your highest level pokemon or something.
How is she not in the ace tourny??
In the dlc give her lvl 100, full competitive sets. Really anyone champion rank, but at least make Nemona into a RED tier opponent. Full ev's, swap mons, good items. I like the idea of giving her other teams as well. Like I wanna struggle with my lvl 100 in game mons.
One of my favourite Pokémon YouTubers made a video about a crazy postgame superboss encounter with Nemona, specifically with the following roster, at level 85, with maxed IVs and their respective signature moves:
I actually haven't played scarlet or violet yet