Sophist: A sophist is someone who makes good points about an issue — until you realize those points aren't entirely true, like a political candidate who twists an opponent's words or gives misleading facts during a speech.
Our formal understanding of logical fallacies dates back to a book called Sophistical Refutations, written because Aristotle thought the sophists were such a pain in the ass.
The truly ridiculous part here, is that if anything untoward happened, Musk would have access to all of the evidence of it. Commit logs, emails, meeting minutes / attendance...
Just like the supposed mAsSivE sCanDaL of Biden’s campaign asking that hacked photos be taken down, meanwhile it was revealed not long ago that the entire Fox News Network was working hand in-glove with the Trump admin to coordinate and disseminate a narrative of Trump’s choosing to be promulgated as “news”.
The reason for this is that they think this is how the world works, and are constantly behaving in illegal and unethical ways. They're engaged in conspiracies and they think everyone else must be too.
That’s how you know it’s all shit, when it’s someone they don’t like mere speculation of wrongdoing is enough to find someone guilty, but if it’s someone on your side blatantly criming the burden of proof to prove wrongdoing is impossible to meet
I have zero trust in Musk’s Twitter being able to maintain even the slightest amount of respect for someone’s data - if it proved useful for its’ owner. His behaviour the past month or so had made it amply clear. And don’t underestimate the power of that data.
Musk claimed early on he wouldn't turn Twitter into a free-for-all hellscape of right-wing lies and propaganda, but that's exactly what he's done. I hope all its advertisers pull out and he's footed with a bill he can't hope to ever afford. After all, he had no cash to make this deal, staked some $30B on Tesla's stock, and dumped the rest into Twitter's debt sheet.
I think that’s a good observation. He does some good things; he does some bad things; but ultimately his self interest is front and centre. He’s obviously an opportunist, and egoist and a somewhat conspiracy minded.
None of you have any idea the look of smug satisfaction has been on my face ever since Elon proved every single fucking thing I've ever said about him for years totally correct.
Musk is probably the most dangerous conspiracy theorist in the world right now. He’s giving other conspiracy theorists so much more attention than they deserve.
People like them are such fucking cowards. They are the most cowardly chickenshit people on earth because they never say what they mean. They appear to be claiming that Fauci conspired to plant his daughter in twitter to cover up negative info about the vaccines. But they won't say that directly because of how crazy it sounds. It would make them look like Alex Jones conspiracy theorists. so instead they make lots of insinuations and dance around the issue and never explicitly say what they mean to say. They do all this extra work just to create a veneer of plausible deniability so when someone criticizes them they can say "I'm not a crazy, I'm just asking questions" or whatever.
They love making poorly thought out insinuations. Counter this by demanding that they put the details of their conspiracy theories into words. Make them hear themselves sounding foolish.
Wouldn’t it be cool if the business world stopped thinking that a) CEOs are geniuses, and b) their expertise in one arena is instantly transferable to any other?
Already left - though Mastodon is still a hit and miss. But no one will die from not having Twitter anymore - and it is an opportunity to recalibrate one’s relationship with social media.
Why exactly do you think he said that? What does it mean if it doesn't imply Fauci is using his influence on Twitter? Because the context sure makes it look like that's what he's suggesting.
He said “small world.” Which is reasonably interpreted as “that’s interesting.” It’s insane that OP is hanging on his every word trying to read between the lines.
Musk could have stated that they've found no indication that she had any hand in COVID-related decisions (or, if she somehow did, confirmed it and backed it up). Instead, his flippant response suggests he'd like to foster this conspiracy notion while being able to pretend he made no such claim. He didn't need to respond at all, yet he did. He amplified Kirk's unsupported suggestion of nefarious activity.
A. Replying "small world" to that is him saying he agrees. B. Musk replying at all means that way more people see it, and he knows that, that's why he replied.
This sub has a bias against Musk and drops their skeptical thought when there is a chance to bash him. The leap of logic to conclude Musk believes this crackpot theory (based on the screenshot) is meritless.
Has nobody here seen the leaks? They didn't need his daughter there, they just had to message Twitter and they'd ban whatever conservative they wanted.
They're supporting one thing. Your supposing the opposite. There's nothing to be a skeptic about. Political people sometimes get their friends/family into cushy do-nothing jobs. Was this the case? Who knows. Is she still employed there? Presumably of she met Elon's criteria, she could be. That'd at least be someone to point towards debunking Charlie.
Sophist: A sophist is someone who makes good points about an issue — until you realize those points aren't entirely true, like a political candidate who twists an opponent's words or gives misleading facts during a speech.
It's worse, it's bad faith, as explained by Sartre and summarized on Wikipedia:
Our formal understanding of logical fallacies dates back to a book called Sophistical Refutations, written because Aristotle thought the sophists were such a pain in the ass.
"It's a small world" isn't exactly a bold claim of a particular fact, it's more of a figure of speech/shitpost.
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Is she the one suppressing the Hunter Biden nudes they're so desperate to get their hands on?
Ah that’s why twitters approach to managing information during the pandemic was so different from every other social media platfo……Oh wait…..
Fauci also has a son who works at Facebook. His name? Mark Zuckerberg.
These people see conspiracies behind every rock and shadow.
The truly ridiculous part here, is that if anything untoward happened, Musk would have access to all of the evidence of it. Commit logs, emails, meeting minutes / attendance...
Just like the supposed mAsSivE sCanDaL of Biden’s campaign asking that hacked photos be taken down, meanwhile it was revealed not long ago that the entire Fox News Network was working hand in-glove with the Trump admin to coordinate and disseminate a narrative of Trump’s choosing to be promulgated as “news”.
“Everything is a conspiracy except for the actual conspiracy, which is fine.”
The reason for this is that they think this is how the world works, and are constantly behaving in illegal and unethical ways. They're engaged in conspiracies and they think everyone else must be too.
That’s how you know it’s all shit, when it’s someone they don’t like mere speculation of wrongdoing is enough to find someone guilty, but if it’s someone on your side blatantly criming the burden of proof to prove wrongdoing is impossible to meet
It’s worse… they see the Trump org’s guilty verdicts as evidence of a conspiracy against Trump.
Look anywhere long enough and you're gonna find a conspiracy. Man, life is a conspiracy!
You're blind, and of course you'd bring it back to Trump. Why?
Almost like political parties are biased.
Ah yes, what are the odds that some person inside the government has a relative that works in social media? /s
If you ask this question another way it points out the clear absurdity:
Ah yeah, another glimpse of the mysterious little imaginary world right-wingers live in. Fascinating.
Her Linkedin profile is deleted or private, but she was an Android developer if anyone is curious. Her bio said she works on:
I wonder why it's gone. She must be hiding something /s
That's exactly what someone who wants to hide the fact that she was in charge of censoring valid information would put in their bio!
Where are Musk's 9 kids working right now?
Something hardcore.
OMG, how dare Fauci's daughter have a job!
That's what bugs me here: Is there anywhere she could've worked that they wouldn't object to?
I hate that he’s feeding into their victim narrative/conspiracy theories.
I have zero trust in Musk’s Twitter being able to maintain even the slightest amount of respect for someone’s data - if it proved useful for its’ owner. His behaviour the past month or so had made it amply clear. And don’t underestimate the power of that data.
Charlie Kirk was an Eagle Scout. Because of course he was.
Or charlie isn't telling us something! I think we should drag him to a cell and make him tell us where the bodies are
Thanks for reminding me that software engineers make no relevant decisions 😞
Since her title was Software Engineer that proves he's incorrect about any wrongdoing.
musk really chose his camp. to hell with reality: reality is whatever is advantageous for him.
Musk claimed early on he wouldn't turn Twitter into a free-for-all hellscape of right-wing lies and propaganda, but that's exactly what he's done. I hope all its advertisers pull out and he's footed with a bill he can't hope to ever afford. After all, he had no cash to make this deal, staked some $30B on Tesla's stock, and dumped the rest into Twitter's debt sheet.
I think that’s a good observation. He does some good things; he does some bad things; but ultimately his self interest is front and centre. He’s obviously an opportunist, and egoist and a somewhat conspiracy minded.
None of you have any idea the look of smug satisfaction has been on my face ever since Elon proved every single fucking thing I've ever said about him for years totally correct.
is their a right winger crazy virus going arround? cause a lot of these nuts are extra nutty these days.
They are just cranking the masses for whatever end goals they wanted. Remember Elon’s BTC pumping awhile ago - and then he bailed?
Well yes people do have children and they work at companies like twitter, Facebook, Google - or even newspapers! What horror!
Why are conservatives so stupid and ignorant?
With each tweet, Musk reveals himself to be dumber and even more gullible.
“Revealed?” Like, was someone trying to hide it? I assume it’s on her LinkedIn.
It has been revealed? It was public knowledge two years ago!
What's "suspicious" here is that Charlie Kirk sees a connection between someone speaking the truth and a made-up position of power.
JFC, both of those guys are morons.
Since there is no indication of wrong doing from either of Dr. Fauci or his daughter, coincidence or not, this is irrelevant.
It's not a problem. These idiots aren't fooling the swing voters. Let them keep spreading their bullshit while Dems promote decent government policy.
Time for a libel lawsuit.
Really? Fauci's daughter working at twitter is part of how the conspiracy "works"? Turns out the conspiracy was *much* shallower than they thought.
Something tells me that Musk and Kirk were probably treated the same by family and peers when they were younger.
I was once a low ranking soldier in a NATO military. I sure showed Putin who is boss though.
How about Ivanka or Jared who read books on the topic of the Middle East?
I really really hate that a fucking dumbass, pathologically-lying conspiracy theorist Nazi has his own social media platform that reaches billions.
Someone's daughter has a job? Oh noes.
Ivanka and Jared worked in the whitehouse. Crickets
Hah! So now Elon won’t let his simps get vaccines. Hilarious.
Hey, remember when a million people died?
Would have been much easier to code twitter bots as the Russians do.
Are you sure the pic of Kirk isn't photoshopped?
How has Elon turned into such a giant turd sandwich?
Wait until it's revealed to them who owns Truth Social
How does he have time for this in his life? I don’t run multi billion $ companies and I don’t have time for this kind of nonsense
What's that saying again? Causation does not equal correlation? Elon should really stop fuelling these allegations.
some people just want to see the world burn
Musk is a completely deranged psycho
Musk is probably the most dangerous conspiracy theorist in the world right now. He’s giving other conspiracy theorists so much more attention than they deserve.
Charlie Kirk’s father, Robert W. Kirk, was the project architect manager for Trump Tower in New York. Small world.
I heard Elon Musk uses a space suit to smell his own farts.
You know that for a fact of course because you were her supervisor.
People like them are such fucking cowards. They are the most cowardly chickenshit people on earth because they never say what they mean. They appear to be claiming that Fauci conspired to plant his daughter in twitter to cover up negative info about the vaccines. But they won't say that directly because of how crazy it sounds. It would make them look like Alex Jones conspiracy theorists. so instead they make lots of insinuations and dance around the issue and never explicitly say what they mean to say. They do all this extra work just to create a veneer of plausible deniability so when someone criticizes them they can say "I'm not a crazy, I'm just asking questions" or whatever.
Aha, PROOF that conservative voices are being silenced!!!111
Twitter delenda est.
They love making poorly thought out insinuations. Counter this by demanding that they put the details of their conspiracy theories into words. Make them hear themselves sounding foolish.
these guys would see the Mona Lisa in a Jackson Pollock painting
Fuck you Chucky Smol Face
Considering the rampant antivax and covid conspiracies on Twitter I wish she had some kind of influence over it.
Wouldn’t it be cool if the business world stopped thinking that a) CEOs are geniuses, and b) their expertise in one arena is instantly transferable to any other?
This is what it looks like when your entire political ideology is based on conjecture and faith-based.
It's sort of hilarious to see that rich dude trying to make the best of a poor decision.
Already left - though Mastodon is still a hit and miss. But no one will die from not having Twitter anymore - and it is an opportunity to recalibrate one’s relationship with social media.
Twitter was losing $4 million a day when Musk took over, and traffic has gone way up since.
I don't understand how Musk tweeting "small world" here is seen as him promoting the idea that Fauci's used his daughter to influence twitter.
The context suggests it. Why else did he tweet that in reply to Charlie Kirk? Why did he even acknowledge Charlie Kirk?
What part of "Small world" implies that Musk is "promoting the idea that Fauci influenced Twitter"? I am skeptical of your conjecture.
Why exactly do you think he said that? What does it mean if it doesn't imply Fauci is using his influence on Twitter? Because the context sure makes it look like that's what he's suggesting.
Are you not American?
That reply was tactically beautiful. It could plausibly be spun either way. That is how it's done my friends!
If only there was some way to make them go into a brutal cage match and fight each other to the death
He said “small world.” Which is reasonably interpreted as “that’s interesting.” It’s insane that OP is hanging on his every word trying to read between the lines.
I'm guessing you're not American.
I mean, based on the screenshot, I don't see how Musk said any of that..
Musk actively engaged with then and then did nothing to rebuke it. He's clearly happy to encourage these theories.
Musk could have stated that they've found no indication that she had any hand in COVID-related decisions (or, if she somehow did, confirmed it and backed it up). Instead, his flippant response suggests he'd like to foster this conspiracy notion while being able to pretend he made no such claim. He didn't need to respond at all, yet he did. He amplified Kirk's unsupported suggestion of nefarious activity.
It's quite telling that the only defense conservatives seem to have left is playing dumb.
A. Replying "small world" to that is him saying he agrees. B. Musk replying at all means that way more people see it, and he knows that, that's why he replied.
This sub has a bias against Musk and drops their skeptical thought when there is a chance to bash him. The leap of logic to conclude Musk believes this crackpot theory (based on the screenshot) is meritless.
Has nobody here seen the leaks? They didn't need his daughter there, they just had to message Twitter and they'd ban whatever conservative they wanted.
That's a fascinatingly deranged interpretation of what Musk and Taibbi revealed.
They're supporting one thing. Your supposing the opposite. There's nothing to be a skeptic about. Political people sometimes get their friends/family into cushy do-nothing jobs. Was this the case? Who knows. Is she still employed there? Presumably of she met Elon's criteria, she could be. That'd at least be someone to point towards debunking Charlie.
Promoting by...replying? Well shit you're promoting it too by sharing it here.